Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamic Awakening


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 03:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Islamic Awakening

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Neologism with few uses found outside of the title of a book and the name of an internet forum. Can't locate substantial evidence that the term is popularly used outside of these contexts, and as these contexts are proper names, they should be held to a standard of notability for which they are classified (book, forum). Torchwood Who? (talk) 14:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Jeremjay  24  ''' 14:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that the article is sub-standard. Actually the article is a work in progreess and i will work to complete and enhance it. --Nizarsh (talk) 16:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * One specific note that the term (Islamic Awakening) is quit popular in Arabic (Read as: الصحوة الاسلامية), however, it is sometimes referenced as : Islamic Revival and possible other terms. The benifit is to document the movement in English, where i personally have'nt seen it documented. --Nizarsh (talk) 16:20, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I see your argument for the importance of documenting the movement in the English language wiki, but perhaps it can be included in a broader article until it meets the criteria for a content fork? Please see Islamic Movement for a list of specific to movements where some of the info might be able to be applied. In researching this further I've found that the "Islamic Awakening", as shown in the examples I listed above, is applied as a catch-all term for a variety of moderate to extreme movements beginning in the late 20th century until now. I can't find any single unified definition of the term or a context in which it is used with an explicit single meaning in English. Would you support a content merge if there was an acceptable place to move the sourced information?--Torchwood Who? (talk) 17:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe we could reach a catch-all term. That is actually what im trying to do. But, then we could break it down for modesty ...etc. After reaching to the unifying term, we could look at content merging. --Nizarsh (talk) 18:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, while I think we all appreciate the inclusion of the Arabic name and sources, I'm wondering if there is an issue with presenting the information from those sources as translations to English without scholarly sources. I'm brining this up because the native language here is English and a small minority of editors on this wiki have a firm enough grasp on Arabic to be of use in policing the article for POV and vandalism. I feel there might be issues with WP:OR or WP:NPOV because the English language editors are at a loss to check the sources for themselves. Are there any accepted English translations for your Arabic sources?--Torchwood Who? (talk) 17:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * There are several sources that provide english and other languages' translations. We could use those translations. --Nizarsh (talk) 18:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. No reliable source to establish notability of this term. OhNo itsJamie Talk 16:30, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I could see your point. But there ara many articles in wiki that provide a term in different languages with pronounciation in each language. Why it is a challenge here? Moreover, only by tying both english and arabic names that the term becomes crystal clear to arabic and english readers, and not to confuse it with other terms. --Nizarsh (talk) 18:23, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. I see no signs of WP:Notability or WP:V. -- 128.255.251.167 (talk) 23:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

