Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – Somalia Province


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 13:30, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – Somalia Province

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Another promotional article. There's no such a province or Walayah. The subject does not pass WP:GNG. Mhhossein (talk) 19:30, 26 July 2016 (UTC)


 * strong keep - Group clearly meets the general notability guidelines, has carried out at least three attacks in the last week in Mogadishu and Baidoa. this editor is an iranian shiite with a conflict of interest who goes around proposing deletion of all IS pages claiming they are not notable, despite them obviously being notable, he is a malicious vandalSmith1122 (talk) 10:46, 29 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - Unnotable "provinces" should simply be listed under the article ISIL territorial claims. Editor abcdef (talk) 10:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - However as Mhhossein says, there is no "Somalia province" claimed by IS, they just have a number of followers there. Gazkthul (talk) 06:51, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * So, your keep is meaningless when you admit that there's no such province! Mhhossein (talk) 12:11, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The article should be kept with a renamed title. Gazkthul (talk) 13:11, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * There are also ISIL followers in existence within the United States and France, but this does not justify the existence of articles such as Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – American Province or Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant – French Province. As I argue below, the existence of a terrorist "province" in a state is a controversial claim that needs coverage beyond the existence of supporters in the given state. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 06:15, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I would argue the presence in Somalia, while nascent, is more concrete and notable than some followers or sleeper agents living in the West. For example an ISIL media outlet recently released a video showing a rudimentary training camp, a claim of responsibility for an attack, and a pledge of loyalty by an ex-Shabab commander, under the name Jund al-Khilāfah in Somalia (Not Somalia Province). Gazkthul (talk) 05:17, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Somalia-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
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 * Pinging Spirit of Eagle as an appropriate notification. --Mhhossein (talk) 10:50, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. The article has not any reliable source to confirm its notability. In the all sections of the article, lead is about the title and has not source. Another parts of this article is about ISIL that has separate article.Saff V. (talk) 16:05, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Claiming that a terrorist organization is running a political entity from territory it took over from a sovereign nation is a pretty major claim that requires substantial reliable sources to back up. Now there are actually numerous sources covering ISIL activity in Somalia, but the sole source referring to the existence of the supposed province is ISIL propaganda (I am not kidding about this either, the entity's name is literally sourced to ISIL propaganda in the article). Furthermore, the article on Al-Shabaab (which actually does control substantial rural territory tens of times more members than ISIL in Somalia) does not actually refer to the group as a sovereign entity, so I think it is absolute ridiculous to refer to ISIL in Somalia as one. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 06:00, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


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