Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamic state (disambiguation)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:39, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Islamic state (disambiguation)

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Dab with 1 valid item Islamic state. The second item listed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is not valid because:
 * we have a WP:DABCONCEPT Islamic state
 * any dab page entries that are examples included in the DABCONCEPT should not be listed in the dab (per DABCONCEPT)
 * I've removed/moved all the previous entries which were examples of the DABCONCEPT (but the last remaining one has not been removed yet)
 * That leaves a dab with 1 valid item to the dab. Incoming (hatnotes, interdab) links already removed. (Full details of justification are at Talk:Islamic_state_(disambiguation))
 * WP:TWODABS is a red herring, this last item (just like all the others) are examples included in the DABCONCEPT Islamic state, so should not be listed in the dab as well as the DABCONCEPT per DABCONCEPT Widefox ; talk 20:36, 30 September 2014 (UTC) (updated  Widefox ; talk 21:13, 30 September 2014 (UTC))
 * Delete. I'm not quite sure what the nominator's reason means, but WP:TWODABS provides that hatnotes are the correct option to distinguish between Islamic state (governance based on sharia) and Islamic State (the internationally unrecognized country "established" by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant). If this AFD concludes with this outcome, an additional hatnote will be needed at the latter article. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * (ec) TWODABS says we can have it (or just use a hatnote instead) if ISIL is a valid entry. DABCONCEPT says ISIL isn't a valid entry. It is a dab with 0 1 valid entries. "The latter article" (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) is unchanged, as are redirects, so needs no hatnote because of this change. I've retargetted Islamic State to Islamic state, and removed all hatnotes to the dab.  Widefox ; talk 21:13, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I still feel that this isn't really the situation DABCONCEPT embodies, and that a hatnote from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant to Islamic state is necessary. But that has very little to do with the outcome of this AFD, yes? Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 21:23, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Currently Islamic State --redirects--> Islamic state (a DABCONCEPT). Readers typing either will navigate that way via the hatnote at Islamic state to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. They never see this dab, and so deleting it doesn't change any hatnotes (apart from the Islamic State one which I've already retargeted to the DABCONCEPT). The issue of where "Islamic State" should target is a completely separate issue unrelated to this (and there was a recent (now old) RfD which covers it.) Widefox ; talk 07:56, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:06, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. After much contemplation, I conclude that all of the other meanings previously on the page are only partial title matches, and were properly removed from the page, leaving a WP:TWODABS situation for which the primary topic has already been determined. bd2412  T 16:33, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, a delete based on TWODABS is optional. My reasoning was: as it is a primary DABCONCEPT with all items in the dab covered as examples the primary DABCONCEPT, it's not even TWODABS. The challenge is that the primary is not WP:RECENTLY based on usage due to the ISIL example. Widefox ; talk 00:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Islamic State should go to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Islamic state should go to Islamic state. See, nothing to disambiguate. Claimsworth (talk) 01:15, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.