Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Island Air Charters


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep - Article's been massively improved and a few sources have been added since nomination. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 16:57, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Island Air Charters

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The article is about a small business which fails the general notability guidelines and WP:CORP; there is a lack of widespread in-depth coverage of the subject in independent reliable sources. YSSYguy (talk) 23:42, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Delete - as it stands right now it fails even WP:GNG. The addition of new refs shows that the company is notable, if only for reasons of notoriety. - Ahunt (talk) 00:03, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 00:53, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 00:53, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. &mdash;&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·E·C) 00:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete, fails WP:CORP and WP:GNG. All secondary sources seem to be only passing mentions, such as, and , and a lot of recommendations/advertisements, such as . The closest thing to coverage in the reliable sources are mentions in relation to a small airplane crash which probably also isn't notable. Daß Wölf (talk) 01:36, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - I have found two reliable independent source for the airline in the news two article from NZ herald and have added this to the article. But it could do with some more if anyone can help.CHCBOY (talk) 10:26, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Ahunt NealeFamily (talk) 09:41, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment the two news stories that have been added to the article are more about the company's owner than the company. This leads me to a concern, although it is really not my area of expertise; is there a BLP issue with having only negative information about this guy on Wikipedia? YSSYguy (talk) 11:21, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Response to comment - not if they are well sourced, which these appear to be, .  Onel 5969  TT me 21:10, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough; however the two news stories do not bring the subject to the required threshold of notability either. This is coverage by a local newspaper, so not widespread coverage in multiple sources; and as I noted before the articles are about the owner and his misdeeds and therefore not in-depth coverage of the subject either. YSSYguy (talk) 21:32, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi - Not saying they do. Haven't researched this, so I didn't offer a "Delete/Keep" opinion, was merely responding to your question. Take it easy.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:09, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JAaron95  Talk  11:06, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment expanded article NealeFamily (talk) 11:24, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * a lot of the new text relies on a blog by Bruce Gavin. Who is Bruce Gavin? Blogspot is generally not a reliable source (WP:UGC). Daß Wölf (talk) 16:11, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Bruce Gavin is a long time member of the Aviation Historical Society of New Zealand. He is described by the society as an active collector of airline information and aviation photographer specializing in New Zealand. Normally I would not take blog as an RS, but given his standing I consider it so. NealeFamily (talk) 03:56, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  13:23, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per Ahunt. GeorgeGriffiths (talk) 11:35, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.