Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Island of Stability


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was rename to Island of Stability (speech). Further discussion regarding the article's title/potential further renaming can occur on its talk page, as can further discussion about the article itself. North America1000 23:40, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Island of Stability

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Does not appear to be a notable phrase. Fails WP:GNG. This does not mean that it was not said by carter, it was never mentioned in detail by WP:RS FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:44, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
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 * Merge: It was better to wait for sum up the discussion in the talk page. Merge tag was better tag for this article. Keep: I am agree with Mhhossein, because the term of Island of Stability and totally the article are notable and there are several RS about them. You are hasty and did hasty work.Saff V. (talk) 08:24, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to Iran–United States relations where it's already mentioned, as suggested above. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 09:51, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep under some circumstances: The lecture is notable enough. Look at this article for example. The only thing needed is to focus on the whole lecture. Moreover, the phrase is also used by personalities other than Carter, such as by Mohammad Ali Jaffari. I suggest these sources for completing the article;, , , and etc. Mhhossein (talk) 12:31, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Since there is so little text in this article, it wouldn't be a huge deal if we added it to the Iran–United States relations section. In addition, we could rename the section as ' 1977–1979: Carter administration — "Island of Stability" ' with the Island of Stability in the section title. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 12:54, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Or make the "1977–1979: Carter administration" a larger section (the kind with the horizontal line) with smaller subsections, one of them titled "Island of Stability" which would be singularly about the speech. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 12:58, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Rename. The phrase "island of stability" is is widely used, and this is merely one example of it.  If the article is to be kept, it needs a more specific name.  Carter called  Iran "an island of stability in a turbulent corner of the world".  If you search for this phase in inverted commas you get 34 hits on Google (all relevant).  If you merely search for "an island of stability", you get 304 hits on Google (most of which are about other topics).--  Toddy1 (talk) 16:30, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Rename at the very least. The article needs a different, less ambiguous title, because there's also a more notable physics subject: island of stability. Possible alternative titles (inspired by Category:Diplomatic visits by heads of state): 1977 visit of President Carter to Iran, 1977 Carter visit to Iran, 1977 United States presidential visit to Iran. I would not oppose a merge as described above either, considering the small amount of mergable content. - HyperGaruda (talk) 08:05, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * HyperGaruda: How about focusing on the whole lecture, instead of a "phrase" or "visit"? Mhhossein (talk) 10:19, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * What do you mean? What lecture? You do hopefully understand what a lecture is: an educational presentation, such as given by a professor to his students. - HyperGaruda (talk) 18:45, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * HyperGaruda: Actually, I was suggesting to act like "Tear down this wall!" which is a speech (sorry I meant speech, not lecture). Mhhossein (talk) 04:06, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That would be a big improvement.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:54, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, we cannot use "Island of Stability", because it looks too much like island of stability. Any other title suggestions? - HyperGaruda (talk) 16:10, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * HyperGaruda: How about using disambiguation? Mhhossein (talk) 14:21, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:13, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 19:41, 2 March 2016 (UTC) I don't think the similarity of the article titles is too big of an issue, as that can be handled using hatnotes. ansh 666 05:40, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Rename Island of Stability (speech) (or something similar), as per Island of stability (Physics).  This is a common English phrase, easily understood, used not only in political science but in psychology, chemistry, physics,  and probably other fields as well.  It needs no definition. WP:NOTDIC.E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:06, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Rename Island of Stability (speech) as E.M.Gregory told.-- Seyyed(t-c) 04:44, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I think E.M.Gregory and Seyyed's suggestion are in accordance with mine. Mhhossein (talk) 11:05, 12 March 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.