Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ismail Hussain (singer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Tone 06:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Ismail Hussain (singer)

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The subject seems to fail wp:musicbio, wp:gng. A try to save the article via wp:before did not make it otherwise. ☆★  Mamushir   ( ✉✉ ) 19:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ☆★   Mamushir   ( ✉✉ ) 19:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. ☆★   Mamushir   ( ✉✉ ) 19:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep: No notability concerns, it appears to be notable. It contains good sources as well. Empire AS  Talk! 08:35, 18 September 2020 (UTC) — Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Empire AS (talk • contribs) has been canvassed to this discussion. (diff)


 * Keep: It should be kept, and since the article has been enlarged, and has reliable and fine sources, it should be kept, Thank you. Tahaaleem (talk) 08:58, 18 September 2020 (UTC) — Note: An editor has expressed a concern that Tahaaleem (talk • contribs) has been canvassed to this discussion. (diff)
 * Delete lacks significant coverage in reliable sources and most of the current sources are not even reliable. Too soon and fails WP:MUSICBIO. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 08:59, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep; No notability concerns (appearing in major UK newspapers), All claims are verifiable by independent sources (releasing 1st album at age of 12 from Apple Music Store) and doesn't contain original research (LwdBell (talk) 10:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)) — Note to closing admin: LwdBell (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.  and made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * FYI this piece by the The Yorkshire Post is an interview which can't be used for notability and I have no idea if asianexpress.co.uk is even a reliable source per WP:RS. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 10:51, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I've been accused of Canvassing by GSS. I've only placed 3 messages on the talk pages of 3 editors who contributed to the article after creation and also requested input from WikiProject_Islam as this article falls under Wikiproject Islam. Nothing else was done to get accused of Canvassing(LwdBell (talk) 12:39, 18 September 2020 (UTC))
 * In addition the links to independent, reliable, 3rd party sources including newspapers have been vandalized by GSS on the original page. (LwdBell (talk) 12:51, 18 September 2020 (UTC))
 * You asked three users to save this page from deletion and posted a message on the WikiProject Islam for the same and that is canvassing. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 12:53, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Is it really canvassing. See WP:APPNOTE, which says that you can notify the users about the discussion who are major contributors to the article. The editors on which you have shown canvassing concerns, had already edited the article and informing such users is appropriate. So, how is it canvassing? Can you explain? Thank you. Empire AS  Talk! 05:24, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It is defiantly a case of canvancing. The creator didn't asked you to review the page but to litterly vote on the AfD as per this comment "Hello, An article you recently edited (Ismail_Hussain_(singer)) has been nominated for deletion. Please support to keep it alive" and your vote came just half an after they commented on your talk page. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 05:56, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I admit the creator didn't ask me to review it be because they knew that I had already contributed. What I replied then was "AfD depends on community comments. Therefore, to obtain the keep comments, we'd have to improve it further. I'm trying to improve it and you should also with reliable sources." Therefore, I improved the article further by adding refs from music.apple.com and voted keep here (just half an after). In this all situation, I don't see that the creator is trying to canvass. Now it's your turn. Empire AS  Talk! 10:12, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete small time, young singer who has attracted just very local and niche attention.--Mvqr (talk) 13:14, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet inclusion requirements wp:musicbio, wp:gng, or WP:ANYBIO. Despite assertions from those canvassed, does not have sufficient, in depth coverage  cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking." As has already been stated, the sources are inadequate.  -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 14:59, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * And let us not forget the WP:AUTOBIO angle on this. Wikipedia is not a venue for self-promotion -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 15:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)  striking my own weirdness -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 15:40, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete — subject of article lacks sufficient coverage in reliable sources hence article isn’t mainspace worthy at the moment. The sheer lack of character and bad faith edits is indicative of a vested interest/ strong conflict of interest. Celestina007 (talk) 15:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't meet WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:46, 18 September 2020 (UTC)


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