Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ismail Juma


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The result was keep. The Bushranger One ping only 00:40, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Ismail Juma

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Subject is not notable. An athlete who entered several international competitions but achieved no awards or notable results at any time, tragically died before being able to do so.
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:23, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete does not meet notability guidelines for runners.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:33, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep According to WP:NATH, the subject is notable if they have competed in the Olympics, the IAAF World Championships in Athletics, the IAAF World Indoor Championships in Athletics, the IAAF World Cross Country Championships, or the IAAF World Half Marathon Championships (former IAAF World Road Running Championships). The key word is or, so one or more of the listed events. The subject has competed in the 2015 World Championships in Athletics and so meets the criteria. Greenman (talk) 07:19, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
 * A technicality surely? He was entered in one race at the 2015 Championships which he did not finish. That doesn't count.--CouncilConnect (talk) 11:15, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The criterion is quite clear - it says competes, not finishes. Greenman (talk) 12:28, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Looking into the subject further, he holds his country's current national half-marathon record, has won at least the Istanbul and Kilimanjaro half marathons, and his death was widely covered in media outside of his home country. Seems a fairly clearcut case to keep. 12:52, 6 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Subject meets WP:NATH multiple times. In addition to IAAF World Championships in Athletics appearance, subject finished 9th at the 2015 IAAF World Cross Country Championships – Senior men's race and won the Istanbul Half Marathon (an IAAF Gold Label Road Races).  Meeting it multiple times gives a strong presumption of notability.  That is a starting point, but not the end.  It only gives a presumption.  Here, we have an athlete from a country where, according to the Tanzania page, English is not the official language, but is list under "other."  So we should be able to find at least some sources considering the recency and the role of English.  Here, we have that.  For example, the dailynews.co.tz article is a great source and goes towards meeting GNG (note that it is about the subject winning the Istanbul Half Marathon - the same race that causes the guideline to be met; almost like it's set up that way).  With the coverage of his death, that seems to produce its own sources.  To me, GNG is met.  But even if someone says its not there yet, we are clearly close.  In view of what is provided, WP:BIAS, and WP:NATH, keep. RonSigPi (talk) 23:16, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Per RongSigPi. Winning instanbul half marathon is a notable result. Galobtter (talk) 08:23, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per RonSigPi. He's spelled it out so I don't have to. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 02:01, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


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