Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Istanbul Eyalet


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I do not think evidence has presented or actual existence. No prejudice to rec-creation if some is found. I agree about the unsuitability of a reedirect at this point  DGG ( talk ) 02:16, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Istanbul Eyalet

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Another Ottoman province of doubtful existence. While there's no question that a vilayet of Istanbul existed for some years, the location of what would otherwise have been the eyalet of Istanbul is shown by most maps as being merely split along European and Asian lines between the surrounding provinces. The article was created from the equivalent (and unreferenced) article from the Turkish Wikipedia. eh bien mon prince (talk) 00:20, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:36, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:36, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge to History of Istanbul. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:02, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

 
 * Delete. Google search doesn't reveal any usable results, also not under variants like "İstanbul Beylerbeyliği", "Eyalet-i İstanbul" and "Eyalet of Istanbul". If this eyalet did exist (but we have no evidence for that), the article should be kept. If this eyalet did not exist, then it is not a good idea to merge the contents to History of Istanbul (which is about the city anyway, not about historical provinces). --Lambiam 15:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge into History of Istanbul section. It would be possible, I think, to add information on the eyalet, if it did indeed exist, into the main article.  Perhaps a section could even be created on "political subdivisions."   DCI talk 05:10, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you even look at my recommendation above? Somehow I think it would be misleading and a disservice to this encyclopedia to merge content about a nonexistent entity into another article – unless it is made clear that the entity referred to is a figment of someone's imagination, but in that case we need to cite a reliable source explicitly stating so. Moreover, even if this province existed in some time in history, it most certainly was not a "political subdivision" of the city. --Lambiam 12:03, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛  Talk Email 11:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

 I apologize for my comment, and do understand your viewpoint. It seems that the only mention of the eyalet is on a map of Turkish provinces. Deletion is fine, but if sources can be found that confirm the eyalet's existence (and only if), the article should be kept.  DCI talk 16:49, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as it is an important piece of history. --79.180.212.39 (talk) 19:05, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if this province never existed?--eh bien mon prince (talk) 14:11, 17 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I cannot find any reliable sources online that confirm the eyalet's existence. Not to sound redundant, but it shouldn't be kept if it isn't sourced.  If anyone knows of any book sources and adds them to the article, I would advocate keeping the article, but until then, I'd have to say Delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by  DCI  (talk • contribs) 19:25, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. No evidence of existence is offered, and none can be found. I imagine that author jumped to the conclusion that since there was an Istanbul Vilayet, it must have been preceded by an Istanbul Eyalet. Please do not merge misinformation into another WP article. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 01:28, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.