Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/It's All Good (Greenie & KRS-One album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Stifle (talk) 08:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

It's All Good (Greenie & KRS-One album)

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User has continually created articles to promote an artist known as Greenie but has never been able to provide a single reliable and independent reference to verify the information presented. The article has no references. The only reason I didn't tag it for speedy is because a notable artist (KRS-One) is allegedly involved. Ol Yeller Talktome 13:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. I found these that show this isn't a complete hoax:, , and . The first two should be enough to meet WP:NALBUM, while the third corroborates the track listing. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 14:49, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how I feel about those references, personally. None of them seem to cite any sources and are of questionable reliability, in my opinion.  I feel like I'm on the verge of being too harsh when it comes to sources but the fact that KRS-One's website doesn't even mention the album, artist, or contest and that the author has repeatedly futilely tried to push this album and artist on WP in a seemingly less than honest fashion, makes me very skeptical.  I can't say I disagree with your logic but in this case, I feel that more is needed to satisfy inclusion guidelines.  Ol Yeller  Talktome 16:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the sources are non-trivial. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete it like the nominator says 207.81.170.99 (talk) 05:30, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Response - This should be easily verifiable; Krs either did or didn't make an album with Greenie. When I go to Itunes and play previews of the tracks, I hear Krs-One's voice with Greenie; performing together. At various locations around the Internet, I see videos of Krs-One talking about the album with Greenie. When I google Krs-One and Greenie, I find DOZENS of cited, professional sources discussing the album, the collaboration, etc; There is a line somewhere--between ensuring reliable content and over-the-top censorship--- I think the question of whether or not Krs-One is on album with Greenie --and it can be verified--is a no brainer-- It's documented BY Krs-One in writing, print, etc;  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.65.52.195 (talk) 14:10, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You've supplied no proof for any of your claims. Care to help us and provide some information that we can also verify (like the "writing, print, etc.).  In regards to the iTunes tracks, voices can be easily mimicked; people can make a career out of it doing voice-overs.  These videos you claim are all over the internet may not be published by reliable sources; I've seen plenty of videos that involve things that aren't actually happen although I'm not suggesting some sort of conspiracy theory to put the two artists together.  I'm just saying that a video posted by a source that's not reliable can't be used as a reference, just like any other information an unreliable source publishes.  In these Google searches where you find dozens of professional sources discussing the album, please provide them!  Just paste a link anywhere and I'll add it to the article and change my !vote.  To other editors, please note the similarity between the edits of the IPs 69.69.14.176 and 208.65.52.195 (here and here).  This stinks of socking which doesn't particularly surprise me at this point.  It simply furthers my belief that this editor will go to any lengths to push this article without actually providing verifiable sources. Obviously though, draw your own conclusions.  Ol Yeller  Talktome 15:03, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete as it is a non-important album of a relatively unknown artist. Nergaal (talk) 05:26, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.