Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/It's Morris


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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:45, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

It's Morris

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It's Morris

This article about a television show does not satisfy television notability or general notability. It has been moved from article space to draft space once, and copied back into article space without addressing the concern that it lacks Reception information, and that the sources are not reliable and secondary. Review of the sources shows that none of them are significant coverage.

An article probably can be developed on the show that will pass notability, so the draft should be kept. This article does not pass notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Malta-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:56, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * keep: This article should not be deleted cause it obeys Wikipedia's notability requirements for films. In accordance with WP:NOTFILM, "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article". I appreciate your feedback but all sources which I referenced are independent. NET Television is a television station in Malta owned by Media.link Communications, the media arm of the Nationalist Party. It started broadcasting in 1998 so how come it's not an independent source and reliable? You listed Gwida as well. "Gwida has been the best-selling magazine in Malta for over 50 years" so it is definitely a reliable and independent source. You listed Lovin Malta too. If you go on their website, they post articles about food and drink, lifestyle (art, celebrities, fashion, human interest, music and animals), politics, sport... so it is definitely an independent source and reliable as well. Also, the information from the sources which I referenced are all significant. I presume you're not from Malta so obviously you could not understand the articles written in Maltese. For example, the one which I referencee from Gwida magazine, yes as you mentioned it is an interview with the producer / director Eileen Montesin but it is absolutely significant as she said "Morris kien challenge gdid. Peress li Mark Haber li jaħdem il-parti ta' Morris huwa fil-fatt ir-raġel tiegħi fil-ħajja reali" which means that this series was a challenge due to the fact that Haber is her husband. Later on, she said "għamilt spin off minn Becky u rnexxieli noħroġ żewġ sensiliet ta' it's Morris b'suċċess". So why is this interview not significant to the article if here she's saying It's Morris is a spin-off from Becky and she managed to create two seasons of It's Morris with success. You mentioned the article from Newsbook. As a comment you wrote, "Information about actress's Youtube channel". However, I referenced this source cause towards the end of the article, there's written "Fuq l-istess channel tal-YouTube bdew ukoll jitilgħu l-episodji ta’ It’s Morris b’Mark Haber fil-parti ewlenija taz-ziju Morris." which means that on this youtube channel, episodes of It's Morris are being uploaded, where Haber plays Uncle Morris. I appreciate your feedback cause I want to keep learning in Wikipedia Editing but honestly, a lot of the information which you listed in the table is misleading. Other Maltese natives can support this. It's not your fault obviously cause if you're not Maltese, you won't be familiar with our magazines, the language, etc... but the way you commented on the article, administrators might delete it for wrong reasons, that's why I tried to clarify the sources and referencee which I used cause everything is independent and significant to the article. Again, thanks for your feedback but it would be a shame if the article gets deleted cause Montesin's productions are so popular in Malta, and it's really a pity that there are very few Maltese Wikipedia editors, which is why there aren't a lot of articles about Maltese shows, cause fellow editors like you would reasonably doubt it's notability and do not understand the show's popularity, nor are they familiar with which sources are independent. If there are other Maltese Wikipedia editors, and administrators, they would definitely not delete it cause every source is independent and relative. Thanks. Tbwqbc1 (talk) 08:13, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * @Tbwqbc1 at least three of the sources are interviews, which are primary sources and not (usually) thought of as reliable. Two of the other sources are user-generated, the first only has a small paragraph of content, and the rest are just about the actors/actresses themselves. >>> Wgullyn . talk ; 01:24, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:44, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per Robert McClenon's source table. If it were to be kept, it would need much better sourcing. >>> Wgullyn . talk ; 01:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - I would say draftify, but a draft already exists. I would also require, due to the editing history, that the draft be required to go through AfC.  Onel 5969  TT me 15:15, 18 February 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.