Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Italian Shepherd


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 04:20, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Italian Shepherd

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Fails GNG. No RS to support these dogs are a breed, google searches under both the English and Italian names mentioned in the article reveals mentions about the Maremmano-Abruzzese Sheepdog which is known by a number of different names. Cavalryman (talk) 04:16, 18 June 2020 (UTC).
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Animal-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 04:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Comment Not voting on this. The breed exists on the Internet and it has a breed website, however the website claims it has breed standard with Ente Nazionale della Cinofilia Italiano, however the breed is not on their list. The Italian language version of Wikipedia page has no references at all!User:Davidstewartharvey
 * I agree, you can find mentions about these dogs on unreliable websites, but nothing attributable to establish notability, and yes the few pages that do exist on our sister projects are either attributed to the same website as this page or completely unsourced. Cavalryman (talk) 06:37, 18 June 2020 (UTC).


 * Delete. The tale of yet another 20th century breeder who just happen to notice that there was a special dog that was unrecognised by everybody else. The one source is a website of dubious lineage and text without author nor references, therefore it fails WP:REPUTABLE as a source. Google Books and Google Scholar have nothing to say on this dog - it fails WP:NOTABILITY.  William Harris Canis lupis track.svg talk Canis lupis track.svg 08:16, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. The sixteen Italian breeds recognised by the ENCI are listed here, and this is not one of them (nor do I see any claim that it is – the agraria source is clear that it is not, the breeder's website is silent). I don't know what the Associazione Nazionale Cinofilia Italiana is, but it is not the national dog breed association recognised by the ministry of agriculture (that's the Ente Nazionale della Cinofilia Italiana, see this downloadable document, page 7). Agraria.org is a website of variable reliability – some of the content is written by livestock experts, and is I believe reliable; this entry is unsigned, and mostly copied from here. No other reliable sources found; the various mentions in books from a century or more ago date from before the establishment of the Pastore Maremmano and Pastore Abruzzese breed societies in the early 1950s, and do not relate to this dog. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable per Justlettersandnumbers's points. --Lockley (talk) 19:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


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