Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iván Rubio Caudín


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The result was   delete.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 00:34, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Iván Rubio Caudín

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PROD contested by with the explanation "in English football, convention has been that playing for a fully-pro club in the FA Cup would afford notability; arguably the same should apply in Spanish football". However, the opposition team was not from a fully pro league, as UD Logroñés were playing in the Segunda División B at the time. As such, the article fails WP:NFOOTBALL, in addition to WP:GNG. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete – per nom, fails WP:FOOTYN & WP:GNG. &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 18:35, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. To clarify: Clearly there's some doubt about what the convention applied to cup appearances in English football actually says..... In the most recent discussion I could find on the subject, one experienced football editor said that appearing for a club that plays in a fully-pro league would confer presumed notability (the version that I thought applied), another experienced football editor said that the opponents had to be from a fully-pro league as well (the version that the nominator thinks applies). Under neither version would the player pass WP:NFOOTBALL, because that guideline doesn't mention cup appearances at all. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:56, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - first and foremost this article fails WP:GNG, and also arguably fails WP:NFOOTBALL, which mentions "fully-professional league" as being a benchmark for supposed notability. It's logical to expand that to "fully-professional competition", of which the Cup this player has appeared in is not, given the number of semi-pro & amateur teams which compete in. An argument could be made for appearing in such a competition in a match between two professional teams, but that is not the case here. GiantSnowman 14:11, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing WP:FOOTYN. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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