Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivan "Beli" Krstić


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Dori ☾Talk ☯ Contribs☽ 02:08, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Ivan "Beli" Krstić

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PROD contested by IP with no rationale given; fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 15:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete - per nom. He has not received significant coverage or played in a fully pro league, meaning this article fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:51, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - no indication of notability: fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. --Mentoz86 (talk) 10:20, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Not sure - well, I did find some news reports that confirm that he was a FK Radnički Niš player and the tragic story. Club official website says in the last paragraph that the club academy is named after him on his honour and that he started playing at the club when he was 9 and that later became the captain of the main team. In tha last sentence it confirms that he tragically died from a lightening during during a training. This news report confirms he was a Yugoslav national team youth player and describes the events on how his death happend, while at bottom mentions his importance to the club fans and how they mark the occasion each year by a 10 minute silence in each match played (I am not sure, it is not explixit, if they mean all matches, or just the ones played near the date of his death).  One thing is sure, he played with the club during the 1990s and the club was in the top league back then, but for time being I am not able to find his stats nowhere. FkpCascais (talk) 18:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, club official website (see 1999) confirms he played in the top league in 1999-2000 (I. Krstic 34 matches/4 goals) and that seems to be his first and only season he played with the club as the previous seasons don´t mention him. FkpCascais (talk) 18:40, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I added the info at the article, if I find anything else, I´ll let you all know, but if you decide to delete the article, I wan´t oppose, as, even if confirmed he played in top league (so allegedly passes GNG), I can´t even find his playing position for God´s sake... FkpCascais (talk) 18:52, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
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 * Comment – if the league was fully pro at the time, then he meets NFOOTY and his article should probably be kept. – Kosm  1  fent  15:37, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
 * The top league was professionalised still in the 1970s and the league of FR Yugoslavia (1992-2006) kept the same parameters as the former Yugoslav one. The particular problem with this player seems to be more the lack of availbale sources for his career as all focus rather on the incident than his short career. FkpCascais (talk) 04:58, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per the new info, I've changed my vote: Krstic played in 1999–2000 First League of FR Yugoslavia, which is a preceeder of Serbian Superliga, which is a fully pro league, which means that the article passes WP:NFOOTY. Even though there is a lack of online sources, I believe that there is enough offline sources for this footballer to pass WP:GNG, which is the case for a lot of footballer playing at his time and before. --Mentoz86 (talk) 15:39, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - yes, after some long thoughts, I also feel that this player is now notable enough to have an article. It still needs tidying up (formatting, infobox, moving to Ivan Krstić (footballer)) but that's not a reason for deleting. GiantSnowman 15:43, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
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