Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivan Floch


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Same case as in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcio Carvalho (Magic: The Gathering player).  Sandstein  19:45, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Ivan Floch

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no coverage outside primary sources Prisencolin (talk) 23:46, 9 May 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - It's been quite a while since this issue was meaningfully addressed at AfD. With overwhelming agreement across seven deletion discussions (see discussions on Brian Selden, Tommi Hovi, Darwin Kastle, Kai Budde, Mike Long, and Jon Finkel, twice), it's fairly clear that there is a consensus that the top Magic: The Gathering players are notable. On that basis, WP:MTG established some guidelines as to when an MTG player is notable, which Floch meets. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:55, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The WP:MTG guidelines allow for pages that don't otherwise meet GNG requirements. Many of these pro players articles just lack reliable, secondary sources, plain and simple and so shouldn't exist on WP as standalone articles. Note that per WP:LOCALCONCENSUS "... unless they can convince the broader community that such action is right, participants in a WikiProject cannot decide that some generally accepted policy or guideline does not apply to articles within its scope. " Also note that an WP:ALTERNATIVE, a fan wiki that covers the MTG pro scene, exists. So its not like this information would be lost if not for wikipedia.--Prisencolin (talk) 03:46, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete at best as all of this still seems questionable for solid independent notability, there's nothing convincing to suggest this can be kept and better improved, should that have happened. SwisterTwister   talk  22:41, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor Talk! 00:10, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. NewYorkActuary (talk) 06:55, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, st170e talk 01:31, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. There's this article from The Oregonian, but it's rather brief.  I don't see any other coverage in independent reliable sources.  The other Google News hits are just YouTube videos. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:23, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.