Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivan Karasev


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:17, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Ivan Karasev

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Notability concerns, lack of sources

This page has been tagged since May 2009 with notability concerns. This Ivan Karasev apparently is the author of a constructed language whose page was deleted then (see Articles for deletion/Log/2009 May 10). At the time the nominating editor suggested nominating this page as well. A sysop on ru: states there that most Ivan Karasev related stuff that wiki seemed to be PR work by one person or a small group of people. There do not seem to be any English language references on this person, although that in itself doesn't mean much, but as I don't speak Russian I can't really comment on the quality of the available sources. I came upon this page because I found a single issue editor spamming WP with ELs to this guy's conlang, and eventually found my way here while reverting his edits. Eniagrom (talk) 17:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I had nominated the article about this person for deletion in ru.wiki (link for those who can read in Russian). After long debates participated mostly with unregistered users (presumably Mr. Karasev himslef and his friends) the article was finally kept due to the fact that Karasev is rather frequently contributing to Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reports from his region (see the list of his contributions, in Russian) - it is sufficient reason for keeping in ru.wiki. The problem is that the articles both in Russian and in English are treating Karasev mostly as writer and creator of artificial language; these activities of Karasev are not covered by reliable sources and he is definitely not notable in these aspects. I suppose there are no sources observing his activity as a journalist as well. Therefore probably the article should be deleted in en.wiki. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 21:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


 * delete I am pretty sure this is an autobiography. The language is definitely not notable. Since notability requires that he is himself the subject of substantial coverage his journalistic activity doesn't make him notable - unless he is publishing articles about himself which I doubt. ·Maunus· ƛ · 23:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)


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