Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivan Olita (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:31, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Ivan Olita
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Heavily promoted article, that fails WP:BIO, WP:PROMO and WP:FILMMAKER. The article notability tag was removed by SPA account. The COI tag was removed by user User talk:ExploreWiki, who was indefo blocked, without the COI being addressed. The refs are a mix of blog and youtube. Lots of refs are dud. At the last Afd, which was borderline keep, one or two insta SPA accounts were created and came into vote, which I missed. Requesting delete for continual abuse of WP Terms of Use.scope_creep (talk) 21:41, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It is worth noting that the whole article has been created by a whole bunch of SPA accounts. scope_creep (talk) 22:18, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 05:03, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 05:03, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete -- despite the over-abundance of refs, this fails WP:CREATIVE. The documentaries appear to be short films; sourcing includes interviews, WP:SPIP coverage and other sources otherwise not suitable for notability. On top of this, the article is mostly spam and does not add value to the project; such content is explicitely excluded per WP:NOTSPAM. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:51, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment It is worth looking to see how it has been built up, all by SPA accounts. it starts with SPA User talk:Amliethomas who comes in at 9:40 and by 14:15 there is a 12k article. 112.196.70.10 adds another 4k. 110.225.194.18 comes in and adds 8bytes. 116.74.57.6 comes in changes 1 character. 122.173.132.245 adds 7 bytes. 103.41.38.183 takes 7 away. And then User:ExploreWiki, who now blocked indefinently, does a copyedit. Then spa 184.164.147.3 removes several characters. All the while, when normal WP editors are interleaving work between the SPA accounts. I think it is a Paid for article. scope_creep (talk) 11:04, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely a beginner director but getting more media attention lately specifically after the release of his MUXES doc that resonated with the LGBT festivals and community  142.129.124.207
 * Comment Brand new SPA IP account just created to come in and vote. scope_creep (talk) 20:11, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: The reference is a listing for the festival, and as such is not notable. scope_creep (talk) 13:03, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Not sure why a film listing for arguably the most important LGBT festival in the US is not notable. Just googled the doc and found it was awarded at SF SHORTS as well Also, I did not create any new account, I just use my IP as a contributor
 * Notability is not inherited, i.e. WP:INHERITED. It is merely a film listing and is not notable. scope_creep (talk) 20:11, 27 October 2017 scope_creep (talk) 20:13, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Tending towards delete, but not very trafficked. Giving it a relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:24, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete scope_creep, I just reviewed Wikipedia policy you suggested me and this is pure promotional article. My vote is for deletion asap. EShami (talk)


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