Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivanovich


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Ivanović. (non-admin closure) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Ivanovich

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Per consensus at Articles for deletion/Alexandrovna, we do not want pages that serve as navigational aids (whether you call them WP:Disambiguation pages or WP:Name pages) for non-surname patronymics.

Per my rationale in that discussion, this article is similar to if The Elder (disambiguation) listed everyone called "[Name] the Elder" (Cato the Elder, Seneca the Elder, Julia the Elder, Edward the Elder, Pliny the Elder, Lucas Cranach the Elder, Osorkon the Elder, Helmuth von Moltke the Elder and so on) or if The Third (disambiguation) listed everyone called "[Name] III" (Pedro III of Kongo, William III of England, Robert III of Scotland, Charles III of Spain, Gustav III, Nicholas III of Saint Omer, Albert III, Duke of Austria, Anna III, Abbess of Quedlinburg, Christian III of Denmark, Joan III, Countess of Burgundy, Margaret III, Countess of Flanders, and so on). It would be a similarly bad idea to have an article called Nikolaevich and list everyone from Alexei Nikolaevich, Tsarevich of Russia to Leo Tolstoy and Boris Yeltsin. The problem, as was pointed out in the previous discussion, is that these people would never be referred to as simply "Ivanovich", "the Elder", "the Third", or "Nikolaevich", respectively. Hence, it doesn't fulfil the purpose of a disambiguation page (nor a name page, as those deal with given names and surnames, and this is neither). An WP:Alternative to deletion could be to redirect this to Eastern Slavic naming customs, as is currently done for Alexandrovich. TompaDompa (talk) 21:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 21:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 21:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. TompaDompa (talk) 21:12, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Just redirect to Ivanović, of which Ivanovich is an alternative spelling. – Uanfala (talk) 21:30, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Looking into the page history, it seems like that's what we did between and . TompaDompa (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Ivanović. Any information currently unique to Ivanovich should be preserved. BD2412  T 05:13, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Ivanović. Pam  D  22:48, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.