Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivy Forrester


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to The Bold and the Beautiful characters (2014). j⚛e deckertalk 16:02, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Ivy Forrester

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Page fails per Wikipedia Soap Project qualifications for a soap article. Not enough required reliable sourcing, nor enough notable real-word content for a fictional character. Delete and/or redirect to Forrester family for the time being.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 20:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete or Redirect. Way too early for this character to have an article. As she hasn't appeared on screen yet, there isn't enough out-of-universe info available beyond the casting announcement. Fails WP:SOAPS guidelines. I think it would be best if the article was redirected to an appropriate list. If there isn't one available, then delete until she's notable. - JuneGloom    Talk  23:46, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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It may be early but on the official website of the bold and the beautiful it says that she will be making her first appearance on July 9, 2014. So whether the article is made early or late, it makes no sense to consider it for deletion. The rest is up to the admin. Thank you.. --Princessruby (talk) 06:30, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Nowhere on the official site does it specifically state July 9, which automatically nulls her debut date, and even then, it violates the fact that Wikipedia is not a crystalball. The character is not notable per Wikipedia Soap standards, as it doesn't feature real-world context, etc.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 14:35, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Sweetheart, the official website of the bold and beautiful confirms that, Ashleigh will be making her first appearance on (Episode #6865) It seems like you don't know when the episode will air since the date is not given. Allow me to explain you. It will air on July 9, 2014. (Here's the official website which states that http://www.boldandbeautiful.com/project/ashleigh-brewer/ ) Episode #6852 aired on 23rd june 2014, Episode #6853 aired on 24th june 2014, Episode #6854 on 25th June, Episode #6855 on 26th June, Episode #6856 on 27th June, Episode #6857 on 30th June, Episode #6858 on 1st July 2014, Episode #6859 on 2nd July, Episode #6860 on 3rd July, Episode #6861 on 4thJuly, Episode #6862 on 5th July, Episode #6863 will air on 7th July, Episode #6864 on July 8th, Episode which on Wednesday will be #6865.--Princessruby (talk) 09:37, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Firstly, I am not "sweetheart", thank you. Secondly, the source provided does not state July 9, 2014; pre-emptions could take place and the episode could not air on the "expected" date. I don't need an explanation, as I know where you're getting July 9 from, but unless the reference states July 9, 2014, it cannot be used for said-reference until episode has aired. Either way, character violates fictional notability and fails per the soap project standards. Article would last better as a sub-article in a character page for the time being until her on-air persona is much more established.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 17:26, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

The wait is over now. Ashleigh finally debuted on the bold and the beautiful on July 10, 2014. which is why I decided to give you one. About the sub- article part, I completely disagree with you. --Princessruby (talk) 13:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 08:51, 5 July 2014 (UTC)



Redirect. Nothing resembling notability. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 01:38, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I found The Bold and the Beautiful characters (2014), which would be the perfect place to redirect the Ivy Forrester article to. The list entry can be expanded there, until a time when the character is notable enough for her own article. Such lists work really well for several other soap operas, including The Young and the Restless, EastEnders and Neighbours. - JuneGloom    Talk  21:02, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment. I agree, JuneGloom! I think that would be the perfect place to redirect the article to until she qualifies for her own, per the standards of Wikipedia.  livelikemusic  my talk page! 21:10, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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