Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivy plus


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The result was Delete. -- VS talk 22:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Ivy plus

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Fails Notability (organizations and companies) because it lacks multiple, agreeing & reliable sources. There are few to begin with, and there is disagreement between them over membership in this vague group. Specifically UChicago, Oxford, Univ SoCal, and Cambridge are mentioned in some sources, not others. Still other sources refer to this as a group of alumni clubs in large East Coast cities, while others treat it as a simple way to refer to the Ivy League schools + Stanford & MIT (, or ) Either way, it is nebulous, undefined, unreferenced & lacks an actual organization. cOrneLlrOckEy (talk) 21:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. It doesn't have to be an established organization. If it's just a phrase that has gained reasonably widespread use, then it's a keeper. Otherwise, it could be deleted as a neologism. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 22:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per nom. Brusegadi (talk) 22:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 10:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. This concept clearly does exist, and is well sourced as demonstrated by the nominator. The nomination seems to be based on the fact that references disagree on the precise definition of the subject. If that's to be a reason for deletion then we should be seeing an AfD for God soon. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Each 'definition' of God covered in the God article (my definition is not covered) seems to be notable in its own right (that is why my definition is not covered) whereas each definition of Ivy Plus is NOT notable in its own right. Brusegadi (talk) 03:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Inconsistency isn't the only problem. This seems to be a neologism or simply a casual, shorthand term that has been misinterpreted by the authors of the article to denote a set group. The inconsistency in usage seems to indicate that a variety of sources happen to use the sequence of words "Ivy plus," without any evidence that they all intend it to refer to the single group this article purports to be about. Dylan (talk) 02:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: WikiProject Universities has been informed of this ongoing discussion. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 15:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


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