Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ivy plus (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Ivy plus
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Previously deleted topic, neologism, non-notable term encompassing a poorly defined group of selective\prestigious\super-duper colleges\universities. Creeping boosterism emblematic of Public Ivies, Southern Ivies, and Hidden Ivies - maybe every college/university can be in some "Ivy" list eventually. Madcoverboy (talk) 16:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Neutral I abhor the continued growth of terms like this but a quick Google search does give enough hits to convince me that it's a real term even if the members of this group change depending on the source. Of course, that doesn't make it any different from most other groups whose memberships are informal and determined by outsiders.  --ElKevbo (talk) 16:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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 * Delete - this is a wholly indeterminate term. In the first version of the article the term was applied to just 15 institutions. It has now been arbitrarily and greatly extended which shows that it lacks the definition need for an encyclopaedic page. TerriersFan (talk) 18:03, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is a neologism that seems to be gaining some traction as a neologism, but its meaning is indeterminate and it is used mostly as a vanity term. Business Week used it in November 2007 to refer to the seven Ivy League schools plus two other elite wealthy schools. The article is unsourced, but it appears to be based in large part on http://www.ivyplussociety.org/, where the term is used to define the membership of a self-defined "elite" social club; http://ivyplusnetwork.com/ is a similar social group. There's a social group in Boston that defines it as the Ivy League plus 4 other schools. Yale University used the term to refer to the Ivy League plus a different set of 4 other schools. Dartmouth has yet another list of 15 schools. MIT has used it to refer to just 4 schools, of which only two are Ivy League. This is not a subject for an encyclopedia article. --Orlady (talk) 03:52, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


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