Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iwcs a Doyle


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Iwcs a Doyle

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Article subject fails WP:MUSIC criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia. Peter Fleet (talk) 00:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: insufficient independent 3rd party coverage WP:BAND. JamesBurns (talk) 02:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- the wub  "?!"  14:58, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, albeit weakly. I think the 3rd party coverage thing has to bear in mind that it is a Welsh language album, hardly an area covered heavily online, but the BBC website has a number of results. I don't understand Welsh, so I can't say what those tell you, but Welsh language Wikipedia feel that an article is warranted and having the "second best selling Welsh language album of all-time" (admittedly this claim is unreferenced, the best-selling is referenced here) is a claim to notability, in my opinion. Esteffect (talk) 00:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Non-notable subject. Wether B (talk) 01:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If a reference for "second best selling Welsh-language album ever" turns up, this should undoubtedly be kept, but I haven't had any success in finding one. the wub "?!"  14:43, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete another nn. The Real Libs-speak politely 16:18, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sadly delete with no prejudice against recreation if reliable sources are found. I saved John Doyle (guitarist) from speedy based on the fact that he was part of this band and this band seemed notable.  Unfortunately I can't find any reliable source (or indeed any source) for the "second best selling Welsh-language album ever" and although I can find a reliable source for the "Can i Gymru" award I don't think that this alone is enough to save it.  If a reliable source for the "second best selling Welsh-language album ever" assertion is found then my vote would be keep.  I have posted on the creator's talk page to see if he has any sources but I fear he may have been scared off. Dpmuk (talk) 23:16, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I would possibly say that the BBC Cymru website has a reliable source, but as I don't understand Welsh I can't look into that. If we had a Welsh speaker that may help. Esteffect (talk) 16:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


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