Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ixiamas Fortress


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The result was   redirect to Ixiamas.  MBisanz  talk 00:26, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Ixiamas Fortress

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This is one of five articles created recently -Labyrinth City, Ixiamas Fortress, Ruins of Miraflores, Madeira Fortress, Trinchera Fortress and Petroglyphs of Quiaca- all sourced to or based on Yuri Leveratto and his personal website at. I can't find reliable sources to show that it meets WP:GNG. I'm taking them to AfD individually as someone might possibly come up with sources even though I've failed. Dougweller (talk) 16:09, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bolivia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:59, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:59, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 00:10, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

*Keep I have added some references to show that the fortress exists. Colonel Sun (talk) 19:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC) ***Answer I can't see any question. Nevertheless, I have provided some discussion as you wish. Colonel Sun (talk) 01:20, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep: The archaeological site is very impressive and important in order to understand Andean History that has to be valorized. The sources are reliable (El Sol is a well respected colombian magazine, and Runabianca is a well respected archaeological magazine).Franciscos58
 * Comment Both references are to articles by fringe author Yuri Leveratto.. Runabianca is not an archaeology magazine but a fringe magazine. A translation of their mission statement says "The White Rune Cultural Association, intends to address in a synergistic way many controversial issues ignored by mainstream science by 'information. The association aims to satisfy and meet the growing desire for knowledge that is affecting an increasing number of people and taking on the contours of a new, global phenomenon of awakening of consciousness. ". The El Sol external link is to an article by the same person. Dougweller (talk) 15:59, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Question Thank you, that confirms the name and its existence. I can't see any in depth discussion. Dougweller (talk) 22:29, 26 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete: No evidence of notability, all sources are self published -- see WP:SPS. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:22, 27 December 2012 (UTC) Redirect to Ixiamas per FreeRangeFrog's argument below. --Guy Macon (talk) 10:47, 31 December 2012 (UTC)


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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:47, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

 **Comment I am inclined to agree, as long as the sourced content is merged into the blurb suggested. Colonel Sun (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect To Ixiamas. The archeological site does exist; there are a few Spanish-language books that mention it. For example, this book on the history of Bolivia. So while I'd prefer that the term be the original Spanish (Fortaleza de Ixiamas), we can redirect this, add a blurb on the locality article and still get rid of the Yuri Leveratto fringe spam. § FreeRangeFrog croak 06:12, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
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