Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Izzy Miller


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 22:17, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Izzy Miller

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A 19-year old musician. Article has been deleted before via a Prod. No reliable references. Refs in article are either self-published are just make mention of him. Unable to find any independent, reliable refs. Unable to find the music published on a major label... last album released on "Lazy Mountain Records". "Back From Nowhere" was never officially released for purchase. This is the best I could find about his previous band. Bgwhite (talk) 08:14, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. I couldn't find anything that makes me think that an encyclopedia article is justified here. --Michig (talk) 11:55, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:23, 15 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. There are plenty of sources online referencing Miller that can be found with a quick Google search. Also, Miller isn't on "Lazy Mountain Records", he's on the independent Long Week Records. Based on that, I doubt that the person who nominated this article for deletion even read the article or looked for actual sources. I included links to several sources on the article. Rocknroller721 (talk) 22:57, 16 October 2012 (UTC) (I am the user who created this article, I lost my password and had to create a new account)
 * comment Do not put other people down.  Sorry, it is "Long Week Records" of which Miller's record is the only release.  Please read WP:GNG on what counts as a source. Bgwhite (talk) 23:46, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Sorry, I did not mean to seem like I was putting you down. I just wanted to point out that you nominated this article for deletion rather quickly without actually reading it. Rocknroller721 (talk) 00:10, 17 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Not notable. The refs currently in the article aren't particularly useful and do not indicate notability. It's great that there are "plenty of sources" available, but at least some of them have to be reliable. --Bongwarrior (talk) 21:58, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: NME, AllMusic, etc. aren't reliable? These have all been used on Wikipedia and accepted as reliable elsewhere. While Miller isn't in the same class Springsteen or Dylan, I'd say he's notable enough to be included here. Rocknroller721 (talk) 01:39, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Neither the NME or Allmusic refs suggest that this person is notable: the NME link consists of an embedded YouTube video with 37 views, and I believe Allmusic will list anyone who requests it. No one is suggesting that he needs to be Dylan or Springsteen to have an article - the bar isn't nearly that high. But he has to have done something more than a slew of inconsequential self-releases. Honestly, it's not even close. --Bongwarrior (talk) 04:11, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
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