Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J.Smallz


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

J.Smallz

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Subject is not notable. Sources cited on the article are not about him but musicians he may have worked with, this includes the awards and nominations mention at the end of the article. SPAECC (talk) 10:18, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians,  and South Africa. SPAECC (talk) 10:18, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete most mentions are trivial, sources are scant about this fellow. Oaktree b (talk) 15:01, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Noted, So I'll make sure to have a newspaper reporting in 2022 of the irregularity and his works as an audio engineer. Mr Mabena (talk) 08:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Others[edit source]
 * Shortcut
 * WP:NMUSICOTHER
 * Composers and performers outside mass media traditions may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria:
 * Is frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable music sub-culture.
 * Has composed a number of notable melodies, tunes or standards used in a notable music genre.
 * Is cited in reliable sources as being influential in style, technique, repertory or teaching for a particular music genre.
 * >> https://www.iol.co.za/entertainment/music/j-smallz-is-doing-big-things-2001036
 * But i am noting there aren't much guidelines for audio engineers on the wikipedia notability list. Mr Mabena (talk) 08:46, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Good day,
 * Let me leave the breadcrumbs of evidence right here for you:
 * J.Smallz in studio at Ambitiouz Entertainment as an audio engineer
 * >> [1]https://www.instagram.com/p/CY3X6FKMLKY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
 * As noted on Wikipedia, you cant reference instagram page posts as evidence of works or notablility, but it does provide clear evidence that J.Smallz works in Ambitiouz Entertainment as an audio engineer. Which is the main notable action sited in his wikipedia intro.
 * He is also nominated in the category of Best Engineered album of the Year for Kid Tini album The Second Coming alongside Tweezy, the wikipage discography you created should mention this.
 * Now for the notability section you require:
 * [2]https://www.instagram.com/p/CP5WuyrsWPB/
 * This is the images taken by Ambitiouz Entertainment of the nomination party alongside fellow SAMA 27 nominees, Intaba Yase Dubai, Blaq Diamond, Miss Pru and others.
 * Here comes the issue (included with the deletion of James Smals redirect that was in the wikipedia page but got deleted):
 * RISA (SAMA 27) misspelt the names of two engineers nominated; namely J.Smallz and Trayce, instead writing - James Smals and Ron Epidemic.
 * evidence >> [3]https://www.instagram.com/p/CPTNLoGMxED/
 * Proven here by what they stated on their own wikipedia page:
 * >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27th_South_African_Music_Awards
 * The award was won by: Zoë Modiga – Papi Diretsi & Songo Oyama
 * Do you still think J.Smallz wikipedia page deserves to be deleted, since he is a SAMA 27 nominee for Best Engineer of the Year? Mr Mabena (talk) 21:08, 22 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete, non notable musician. Doesn’t meet any of the NMUSIC criteria. -Xclusivzik (talk) 06:05, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * The idea to create a J.Smallz wikipedia page is not to promote his music, but rather to promote his works as an AUDIO ENGINEER.
 * Would the content presented need to change to highlight the audio engineer aspect more? instead of highlighting the songs and albums that i contributed to as an audio engineer? Cause i think that may be the issue here. Cause he hasn't been awarded awards for being a vocalist at all, rather his awards and accolades all come from being an Audio Engineer working with popular artists in South Africa and abroad. Mr Mabena (talk) 08:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * "8. Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award."
 * J.Smallz has been nominated for a SAMA award alongside Tweezy, Kitie, Trayce. Would he need to go to a newspaper to report this account even though he is nominated as stated in the discussion with SPAECC... Mr Mabena (talk) 08:31, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn’t seem to meet notability criteria.Park3r (talk) 09:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.