Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J. A. Gardiner


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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Stifle (talk) 15:13, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

J. A. Gardiner

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Clearly a case of mistaken identity as the Olympic database this was article was based on has since been updated so he is no longer listed as a competitor (wikidata Olympedia entry relayed to a profile for John Adam (sailor)). Accordingly, this information has been removed which leaves just a snippet detailing his membership of the committee conducting the events. Unable to find any significant coverage of this individual. wjematherplease leave a message... 14:32, 17 November 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:05, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Olympics.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 14:44, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Not sure if he's notable for Wikipedia or not but there are sources that say "J A Gardiner" was a member of the silver medal winning crew: YACHTING OLYMPIC RACING ON THE CLYDE in the Scotsman 13 August 1908; Merseyside Olympians: The crew of the Mouchette; Results of the early modern Olympics; https://web.archive.org/web/20161203052522/http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/ga/j-a-gardiner-1.html Piecesofuk (talk) 14:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * As I say, Olympedia (more up-to-date copy of the same database maintained by Bill Mallon et al, and used by sports-reference.com) has been updated and no longer lists Gardiner as a member of the crew of the Mouchette, with a note explaining his role as an official and that Adam was the crew member . Unfortunately, sources are often not definitive for this era and must be used with caution, but Olympedia is probably the most authoritative, having been accepted by the IOC. wjematherplease leave a message... 15:05, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The 1908 report in the Scotsman lists him as a crew member and Adam as the reserve, it also mentions a J A Gardiner as one of the officials in charge, so there might be two J A Gardiners? Similarly the Results of the early modern Olympics source suggests Adam was the reserve and Gardiner the crew member Piecesofuk (talk) 15:15, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I wonder if he was James Alexander Gardiner mentioned in a profile and obituary in the RNLI archives, he was a member of the Clyde Yacht Club where the 1908 Olympic races were held: https://rnliarchive.blob.core.windows.net/media/1261/0274.pdf#page=23 and https://rnliarchive.blob.core.windows.net/media/1318/0333.pdf#page=41 Piecesofuk (talk) 16:42, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Seems like a reasonable deduction. wjematherplease leave a message... 13:05, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:26, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.