Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JB (Liberian rapper)


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The result was merge to Soul Fresh. merge and redirect. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 21:45, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

JB (Liberian rapper)

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Despite my attempts at improving the article, the subject fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Despite the lack of coverage on Liberian musicians, the subject has not done enough to warrant stand-alone inclusion. This, this and this are not enough. Had he won or been nominated for his country's major award, I would !vote keep.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 02:10, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  ~SS49~   {talk}  02:19, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  ~SS49~   {talk}  02:19, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions.  ~SS49~   {talk}  02:19, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sheldybett (talk) 07:35, 6 March 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 09:47, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. Liberia has a population of 4 million and not that much mass media going on. He wouldn't be notable in California or New York, but in a small place like Monrovia he's going to have at least a semi-notable presence. Should artists from smaller communities have somewhat relaxed notability criteria? WP:SINGER has high standards, but if we look at Category:Liberian singers we won't find that many singers, and many of them don't meet WP:SINGER either. &mdash; Stevey7788 (talk) 01:49, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I am from Liberia and I can confirm that the entertainment scene there lacks media coverage. With the exception of the Liberian Observer, no other newspaper in Liberia covers the Liberian music industry. Having said that, what makes you think "many" of the singers at Category:Liberian singers fails WP:MUSICBIO? I personally created the Takun J and Sundaygar Dearboy articles; both articles meet WP:MUSICBIO. Unlike the singers in the aforementioned category, JB has not done enough as a solo act to warrant stand-alone inclusion. Soul Fresh, the group he was apart of, is more notable. As a solo act, he is not deserving of stand-alone inclusion.  Versace1608   Wanna Talk? 02:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * . Some Liberian singers do not appear to meet WP:MUSICBIO because WP:MUSICBIO was written from a "WEIRD" (Western) context where media coverage is significant. What I am saying is that for countries and communities where the media situation is very different, I would not recommend applying WP:MUSICBIO strictly to all artists, because many of the most well-known artists are self-made, informal "street" artists who have influenced local cultures significantly, but are not covered by national media. Examples include ethnic minorities in South Asia or Southeast Asia that have big celebrities only within their communities, but are not covered by national media outlets due to bias or indifference regarding ethnic minority entertainment and arts. Thus, I would personally argue for keeping an article that may not seem to meet WP:MUSICBIO but is highly influential in an ethnic minority community of, say, 20,000 people.
 * It's good that you're from Liberia and know more about the situation there. You would be a better person to make a good decision on whether or not this Liberian artist is notable. &mdash; Stevey7788 (talk) 17:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge as part of a new Soul Fresh article, per Versace1608. The band may be notable, but not the solo artist himself. &mdash; Stevey7788 (talk) 17:06, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Commenting that there is some coverage of JB, but the coverage of Soul Fresh is comparable and arguably better, and also a major award. Currently building a stub to allow for a partial merge or redirect. MidwestSalamander (talk) 14:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


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