Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JCB The Musical


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The result was   Delete due to verfiability and notability concerns. Davewild (talk) 21:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

JCB The Musical

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As the article author admits on the talk page, reliable sources for this article are, to all intents and purposes, non-existent which would fail WP:V. Although it's possible that such a musical might be produced, it seems to be more likely to be non-notable (failing WP:N) at best, and a hoax at worst. Not beign able to find sources seems a dubious reason for keeping the article, however I'm putting this forward for a consensus view. CultureDrone (talk) 13:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As the author of the article I can't vote for it. All I would say is that it would be a shame to delete an interesting article simply because the subject matter came and went before the age of the internet. JCB The Musical is noted in a respected published book, which I would say carries more weight that hits on Google. As to whether it is notable or not, well, all I will say about that is that JCB The Musical is not much less notable than And the World Goes 'Round.Judith Scott-Kerr (talk) 17:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC) — Judith Scott-Kerr (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - I've contacted the Swansea Grand (I'll drop the phone number in here if anyone wants to double check) - they have no record that this production ever took place. CultureDrone (talk) 11:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  21:23, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong delete. The only thing a Google search turns up is three results: the article itself, a reference from another to the article, and a pointer to this very AFD.  Nothing else exists about.  This would corroborate what CultureDrone found - basically, there's nothing that says this thing ever existed.  In short, pics or it didn't happen. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 21:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Without !voting either way for now, it should be noted that valid references are not limited to that which can be Googled. Fortunately, the book mentioned is available in many public and college libraries, and can be reasonably checked.  -- ArglebargleIV (talk) 23:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - which is why I went to the horses mouth (so to speak) and checked with the people who were supposed to have staged the production (see above) CultureDrone (talk) 16:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment - Judith, if you wanted to seek more confirmation you could try contacting the JCB company, who might well remember such a production - though as it's a family firm and the musical doesn't show the chairman in a good light, they may have preferred to forget it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 17:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete and bury Oh, those scallywags. What a Card! Plutonium27 (talk) 19:54, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.