Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J Angel


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Consensus is that the standards for musicians are not met. Courcelles 01:17, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

J Angel

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Non-notable songwriter with no adequate sourcing from reliable secondary sources to meet notability guidelines. Warfieldian ( talk ) 17:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment "10.If the article was recently created, please consider that many good articles started their Wikilife in pretty bad shape. Unless it is obviously a hopeless case, consider sharing your reservations with the article creator, an associated WikiProject, or on the article's talk page, and/or adding a cleanup tag, instead of bringing the article to AfD." - via Wikipedia


 * "This article was written by a fan, since there have been millions of views, and website downloads interested in this songwriter's work on the web. This article is a great start for this songwriter, and will be built upon by others.  I know for a fact that this songwriter will have several other major releases this year, and the public is interested in seeing his growing songwriting credits.  The sources listed on this article are reliable, and the information can be verified and proven to be 100% accurate. Roc Nation has an extremely elite group of songwriters and only signs platinum hit caliber writers, as you will see from their current songwriters' roster.  This songwriter is extremely notable within the music industry and with aspiring songwriters, and has sparked interest of fans around the world, particularly in Germany."  comment added by Susieuh (talk • contribs) 19:14, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. This fails the GNG, MUSICIAN, etc. Sources in article are all almost useless. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:42, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Susieuh, nobility is based upon what a songwriter has done, not on what might happen in the future or who they associate with. Currently, he has not written a "notable" song, thus fails WP:COMPOSER.  Unable to find reliable sources about him.  If Susieuh is right about what he might do, then this is a case of WP:TOOSOON. Bgwhite (talk) 23:49, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment "I have added more production writing credits from the ASCAP ACE search, which is noted by Wikipedia as a credible source for musical credits and compositions." comment added by Susieuh (talk • contribs) 19:14, 5 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.147.192.8 (talk)
 * Comment Three of the five songs listed in the table are unreleased. One was already in the article.  For the fifth song, performed by Chopper City Boyz, I'm unable to find an album for it.  Do you know the details on the release?  Also, the website for Chopper City Records is no more.  Does the company and CC Boyz have a website other than facebook? Bgwhite (talk) 21:00, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:39, 6 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment "Notability guidelines says nothing about unreleased songs. It's still verifiable and thus reliable, i.e. you were able to look it up.  These songs have been recorded, and they will be released in good time.  " comment added by Mariapere (talk • contribs) 19:14, 5 August 2011 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.147.192.8 (talk)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.