Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaakko Pöyry


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:25, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Jaakko Pöyry

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Founding a company and being a successful CEO is not, of itself, sufficient to address the WP:BIO criteria. There is a lack of sources to demonstrate the significant impact in an encyclopaedic sense and these seem unlikely to be found in the near future, considering the article history. PROD contested, so raising for wider discussion. Fæ (talk) 03:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep Short: Meets WP:BIO. Long: Founder of a relatively large multinational & multi-industry consulting corporation which employs over 7,000 people, listed in the OMX Helsinki and independently quoted as the world leader in its field, Mr. Pöyry is the subject of a 400-page full-color memoirs-style biography written by Prof. em. Raimo Seppälä, and a celebrated Finnish businessperson, internationally recognized in the pulp and paper industry. These two on-line source are a good starting point, but an extensive wiki-article could be written based on the book, available in the most public libraries in Finland. He never received vuorineuvos, but would have probably been eligible. Quote: "Despite losing his father at a young age and sustaining difficult injuries during the War, Pöyry led a long and unbelievably eventful career from a trainee of a Swedish paper mill to the top, to the demanding world-wide paper mill planning duties." --hydrox (talk) 05:14, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
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 * Keep I don't find in WP:BIO that "Founding a company and being a successful CEO is not, of itself, sufficient". Since Howard Brennan is notable, the standards are looser than would seem to apply here.  Here is a Finnish to English google translation of the advertisement for the biography (I had to use a Google cache, I don't know how long the cache is available) here.  The subtitle "Jaakko Pöyry's a long way to Sodankylä to six continents" shows the man is famous world-wide.  Unscintillating (talk) 05:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it would have been clearer to point to the WP:GNG criteria. The point being made is that there is no WP:CEO type definition of what makes corporate execs notable, the general criteria must be satisfied. As a book has been added since nomination, significant impact can be judged based on that as a verifiable source. Fæ (talk) 10:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: The article under discussion here has been rescue flagged by an editor for review by the Article Rescue Squadron. Snotty Wong   gab 19:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Hydrox's sources above are pretty compelling. Hopefully some of them can be actually added to the article in the near future.  Snotty Wong   gab 19:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Successful business founder, who gets coverage for his accomplishments.  D r e a m Focus  10:40, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
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