Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack (cat) (2nd nomination)


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The result was redirect to Pet travel. I'm closing this as a Redirect as ATD. I would have closed it as Merge but there is already a mention of Jack in this section of the article. Still if there is content that would be useful at Pet travel, it's there. Liz Read! Talk! 01:23, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Jack (cat)
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PRODded by after prior AfD in November 2011, due to lack of lasting coverage for this 2011 incident. Previous AfD was closed as no consensus on November 22, less than a month after Jack was found and then euthanized, because it was not clear yet if there would be lasting coverage. There have been no improvements to this article since then, except for a source added in 2013 that devotes 3 short paragraphs to this incident in the context of many similar ones, and removing several unsourced or non-neutral paragraphs. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 00:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Animal, Events, Aviation,  and New York. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 00:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


 *  Keep Merge/Redirect per Cunard below. The coverage of this cat’s two month habitation of the airport and subsequent death was absolutely extensive. His disappearance spawned a Facebook campaign and various online, print, and television stories. The existing sourcing meets GNG.
 * And while I’m concerned about the prior AfD’s heavy reliance on ongoing coverage when I’m not sure that’s required here under WP:NTEMP, we don’t necessarily need to address that, as I *do* see periodic coverage after. For example, this February 2017 article mentions Jack and an associated now defunct organization formed in response to what happened to him: https://www.cntraveler.com/story/is-your-pet-safe-flying-in-cargo; and this December 2022 article also mentions Jack: https://www.tripsavvy.com/british-airways-dog-air-travel-mishap-6951390. Jo7hs2 (talk) 02:39, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Found another mention in 2015. https://www.yahoo.com/travel/felix-the-cat-found-after-two-weeks-spent-116663476477.html It appears his story gets repeated at least reasonably often when a pet-related airline incident occurs, which would tend to support a degree of ongoing coverage and notability. Jo7hs2 (talk) 02:43, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I am persuaded by Cunard’s analysis and change to merge/redirect.Jo7hs2 (talk) 15:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NOTNEWS, and juste because he made the news for two months doesn't negate the fact that he has no long-term SIGCOV or GNG- passing mentions since then are just that, passing mentions. SilverTiger12 (talk) 03:09, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete cat lost in airport isn't perhaps notable. That the article is barely more than one paragraph of text tells me this isn't notable. The cat didn't live at the airport for an extended period of time and this appears almost as a memorial page to the creature. I don't find any sigcov of the event or for the animal. Oaktree b (talk) 04:19, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Pet travel, where the cat is already mentioned, per Deletion policy. The duration of significant coverage is limited to sources published in 2011 when the cat had disappeared or had died. In sources published after 2011, the cat has received coverage in a few sentences or in a paragraph. To establish sustained notability to support a standalone article, I would have liked to seen significant coverage after 2011 such as a news article about Jack or significant coverage about the case in a book. Cunard (talk) 07:17, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect with selective merge per Cunard. The cat's disappearance was a story, but there's no evidence it was otherwise notable. Makes sense to include in the broader context, where it already is. Star   Mississippi  13:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete a cat lost in airport isn't notable encyclopedic topic. Fails WP:NOTNEWS, WP:LASTING, WP:EVENTCRIT.  // Timothy :: talk  12:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Cunard. Does not pass WP:GNG. Popo Dameron  ⁠ talk  18:43, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge with Pet travel, per Cunard. GoldenBootWizard276 (talk) 18:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge with Pet travel.  Hansen Sebastian Talk 17:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


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