Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Daws


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The result was Nomination Withdrawn. (Non-admin closure) Vulcan&#39;s Forge (talk) 16:22, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Jack Daws

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Artist who just hasn't garnered significant coverage, IMO -- and this is one of these cases in which it's apparent someone dug up everything there is to dig up. Only coverage even close to GNG are two superficial articles by the same local journalist. The rest are local awards (runner-up, honorable mention, etc. in some cases). The NYT piece isn't about him, but rather how someone found a gold-masquerading-as-copper penny he put into circulation. This absurdly strained attempt to tie the subject to one of the great works of cinema ever is what caught my eye -- embarrassing, really. Oh wait -- hold the presses -- now there's some real competition for the award for most strained attempt to find notability by association .EEng (talk) 21:10, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete as nominator. EEng (talk) Nomination withdrawn (see below).


 * RE: I wrote the Daws article. I thought those connections were legitimate; Daws has been influenced by Koons, and his video Bicycle Thief was an homage/reference to the film. Naturally, if the community feels they are illegitimate then by all means they should come down. Also, the Pollock-Krasner Award is an international award. The other awards are prestigious as well, despite being Northwest awards. And no, the NYT article was not about him, but it was about his work.
 * I still contend that Daws is a notable American artist, and I don't think the article should come down entirely. -Jim Muse — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.125.206.152 (talk) 22:14, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment The article refers to a "Pollock-Krasner Foundation Grant" and from the Foundation's website it appears that something like 100 (literally) artists received one (though I'm unclear whether that's this year or over many years). The notability test as given at WP:ARTIST is
 * 1) The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
 * 2) The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
 * 3) The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
 * 4) The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.
 * I don't see anything in the article or sources that comes even close to meeting any of those. It's one of the failings of the AFC process that people get drawn into spending large amounts of time on an article before anyone gives them a clue about notability issues. EEng (talk) 23:15, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep Multiple articles in major newspapers are non-trivial RSed coverage. GNG is met. Jclemens (talk) 06:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I encourage other editors to review these three articles, two of which are by the same local writer (400 words) (90 words) and the other less about Daws than about the person who found his gold penny (Brooklyn Woman Finds Counterfeit Penny Made of Gold). EEng (talk) 10:45, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep source articles listed (selected publication). Have not verified but believe based on titles these are significant coverage. Some are primary like exhibition catalogs but not all, some are reviews or more. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 09:07, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I withdraw the deletion nomination based on the above. Some of those sources should go in the article, with quotations characterizing the artist and his art. EEng (talk) 14:04, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
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