Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Harvard


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The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 08:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Jack Harvard

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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. There's some interesting tidbits here, and there was a New York Times article from the 1980's which is about J.C. Penney coming to Plano which uses his office decoration as a hook, but even though Plano's not the smallest suburb in the world, I don't see enough here in a WP:BEFORE search to source the article well enough for it to pass WP:GNG, espcially for a possible living person. SportingFlyer  talk  07:11, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 13:49, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 13:49, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete This guy was trounced in the primary for state senate. Being mayor of a city the size of Plano, which had 128,000 people when Harvard left office, is not a default sign of being notable. This is especially true because Plano has a council-manager form of government, not a strong mayor form of government. Thus, if anyone might be notable as the actual head of Plano, it would be the city manager, not the mayor. My city of Sterling Heights, has esseitially the population that Plano did when Harvard left it, our most recent past mayor Richard Notte served as mayor much longer, but we also have a council-manager system. In fact Notte was the only directly elected mayor we had had in the first 20 years of the current sysstem of choosing a mayor. Yet for good reason he was deemed not notable. Harvard too was essentially the city council president with the title of mayor. This explains why there is so little substantial coverage of him. He is just not notable. We need to stop being fooled by people being called mayor into thinking that creates a uniform measure of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:10, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mayors do not get an automatic presumption of notability, regardless of the city's size, in council-manager cities — but this is not sourced anywhere near well enough to get him over WP:GNG in lieu, and losing a primary election at the state level is not a notability boost. He would have to win election to the state legislature, not just run in a primary and lose, to claim notability based on state-level political activity. Bearcat (talk) 18:06, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


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