Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Lockett


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Firm consensus that post work by Rebecca notability is clear established (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 23:37, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Jack Lockett

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No independent notability besides this person's reaching an advanced age. "Oldest man in Australia" is not a title that confers automatic right to an individual article. His entry on the List of the verified oldest men is sufficient. — JFG talk 10:51, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOPAGE. Mostly minor things, and no meaningful, substantive coverage of him. The part about his role carrying the Olympic torch does belong somewhere, presumably in one of the articles about the 2000 Summer Olympics (those pages are such a maze I don't pretend to know exactly where), but that alone is nowhere near sufficient for a standalone article. All else is easily handled in lists. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 13:23, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 13:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Strong Keep I have added more references and some more information. I am not sure that the nominator has done a WP:BEFORE for this AfD. Lockett is regarded as a hero and a legend in Australia - the prime minister was at the ceremony at which he was awarded the Chevalier of the Légion d'honneur award, and he received a state funeral. More could certainly be added to this article - it is definitely not WP:NOPAGE. What I have added - the quotes, as well as the references - is intended to show that he was indeed notable. He meets WP:BASIC, and also WP:ANYBIO, having received two well-known and significant awards or honors. RebeccaGreen (talk) 11:47, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Definite keep after work by RebeccaGreen. Easily meets GNG and BIO. WP:BEFORE seems to have been lacking.  Aoziwe (talk) 11:11, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Rebecca Green's references. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 19:25, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOPAGE and The Blade of the Northern Lights. The coverage of him is all either trivial mentions or WP:ROUTINE, not WP:SIGCOV of him. He lived. He avoided the Reaper longer then most. He died. He and his age are best handled on a list. Newshunter12 (talk) 00:56, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 16:55, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep – Well referenced piece that supports the individual for being include here at Wikipedia. Anyone giving the privilege of a “State” funnel has gained enough nobility to have a standalone article here.  Though it may be short it is well deserved. ShoesssS Talk 19:21, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep Per RebeccaGreen, I think he received enough recognition to be notable.  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  18:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep This one is well referenced.--JAMillerKC (talk) 19:59, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep National heroes are notable, and state funerals are an uncommon honor. He died in 2002, and unfortunately the Australian has not done a good job of keeping articles visible for that length of time. Nonetheless, there are sufficient sources to identify him as a national hero, and the first one I looked at was WP:SIGCOV. Jack N. Stock (talk) 00:50, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I'd usually say delete because only living a long time is not notable but getting the Order of Australia, like the Order of Canada is enough to pass WP:ANYBIO for me. Legacypac (talk) 07:57, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep This article (unlike many of these supercentenarian articles) easily passes WP:GNG with extensive coverage in sources. CommanderLinx (talk) 12:17, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete/redirect/merge per NOPAGE. travelled to Mildura to enlist in the Australian Imperial Force. He served in France ... returned ... to make his living as a farmer makes a nice minibio on a list. EEng 05:41, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I could get behind a merge in this case, yes. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 06:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep per RebeccaGreen's reasoning & forensics. Subject possesses independent notability. -The Gnome (talk) 18:09, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


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