Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack McCauley


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The result was keep. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:35, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Jack McCauley

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Non notable individual, promotion from a shill. Has some local interest ("Danville resident ..") and alumni coverage but nothing significant. Rest of sources are passing mentions and listings. He lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:00, 8 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep He certainly didn't invent the scroll wheel, that was these boys Scroll Wheel, but he could have "invented" the physical and software implementation for it while at Microsoft, or or it could have been Logitech that did it. I don't clearly remember when they came in or who did, but certainly he was not the first. As the designer of the Guitar Hero guitar components along with all the light guns and controllers he's built for the industry possibly. WP:GNG. Scope creep (talk) 11:00, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm, "possibly"? duffbeerforme (talk) 10:41, 16 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep This guy has plenty of sources. The complaint from the nom is "local interest" simply because one the sources he chose to list, an informative source, was a Contra Costa County newspaper.  Another strong article is the San Jose Mercury, which is the Silicon Valley's major daily.  I've added to sources and haven't even gotten off the first page of google, there are plenty of other sources where that came from.  He certainly passes WP:GNG.  As an inventor he has had more than one significant invention.  Calling him a shill, calling this promotion, as in lacking in substance, is a complete misrepresentation of the facts. Trackinfo (talk) 03:47, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I did not call him a shill. The shill is Sigma0 1, a now banned advertiser for hire. I make no claim to have any idea who was the client. As a paid advert calling it as such is not a complete misrepresentation of the facts.
 * That other "strong article" is a personal reflection on an interview published on a blog, not strong at all. Also by the same person as the first, not exactly multiple sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:41, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I did a Wikipedia search on [Sigma0 banned], and I see no evidence to support the assertion that this editor is banned, just blocked. Unscintillating (talk) 06:08, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It is also entirely irrelevant here, as a WP:COI does not make the edits invalid, this article has been kept for years, and many editors have worked on the article, before and after the 2.5 weeks of edits by this one editor. Unscintillating (talk) 06:08, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Keep. I believe this subject meets WP:ANYBIO #2 ("He designed the electronics for the Guitar Hero guitars and drum controller, which formed the basis for all subsequent Guitar Hero versions." - source SJM) and WP:CREATIVE #2 (While normally applied to media creatives could reasonably be applied to software authors -- "He is one of the authors and originators of the Universal Serial Bus (USB) specification" which needs a better citation but is adequately sourced here). This fellow appears to be a legend in his field, and meeting two separate additional criteria of WP:BIO, I reasonably presume better sourcing will be found, possibly during this process. Zero reason to delete. As a biography of an essential IT inventor, this BLP page deserves improvement and might grow to FA class. BusterD (talk) 03:43, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * "He is one of the authors and originators of the Universal Serial Bus (USB) specification". Not adequately sourced there, a press release from an involved organisation, not independent. Also questionable as pointed out above. The claim of the scroll wheel debunk above is a significant focus, where is the fact checking? Also a vague claim. Did he make the coffee of design the wiring or what? Vague claim designed to sound grand and puff him up. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:41, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It appears User:Duffbeerforme didn't perform a reasonable WP:BEFORE. He or she should realize this article won't be deleted (per SNOW) and withdraw the nomination. Nobody else here seems to support deletion. Badgering every one of those who, using policy and citation, oppose an ill-considered nomination isn't a winning strategy. Such a technique certainly shouldn't prevent a keep close or enable a relisting. BusterD (talk) 01:08, 17 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep Significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Some are already in the article and others are very easy to find. The need for insertion of additional references and copy-editing to make the article more encyclopedic and less promotional/hagiographic/choose-your-adjective is evident but that's an argument for editing, not for deletion. David in DC (talk) 18:10, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * For all claiming GNG. Which sources are not an interview with him, not related organisations, not press releases? Where is the independent editorial efforts. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:41, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Here are a bunch of sources that could be integrated into the article. Please recall that notability is about whether the sources exist, not about whether they appear in the article yet.


 * Raymont, Chris Meet the Genius Behind Oculus Rift Success Magazine, 23 May 2014. (This article isn't primarily about McCauley, but "The company hired Jack McCauley, the lead engineer of Guitar Hero, to oversee the Rift’s manufacturing process. In a career that spanned more than 25 years, McCauley had worked with many of gaming’s giants at companies such as Microsoft and Electronic Arts.")
 * Swartz, Angela Oculus VR co-founder Jack McCauley on VR, AR and his creative new project Silicon Valley Business Journal, 8 October 2015.
 * D'Onfro, Jillian Inside Oculus: Rare photos from the early days of Facebook's virtual reality pioneer Business Insider, 14 October 2015. ("Jack McCauley's research lab in Livermore, California, is hallowed ground for any virtual reality fan. McCauley was a founding engineer at Oculus VR, the virtual reality headset maker that Facebook bought for about $2 billion last year.")
 * Perry, Tekla Oculus Co-founder Jack McCauley’s Next Challenge: The Perfect Head-Tracker for VR IEEE Spectrum, 7 November 2016.
 * Lang, Ben Exclusive: Former Oculus VP of Engineering Demonstrates Long Range VR Tracking System Road to VR, 8 March 2016.
 * Bailey, Kat "I Consider Myself Crucial to the Success of that Company": Jack McCauley Recalls the Early Days of Oculus and Looks to the Future PC Gamer, 12 April 2016. (This one's an interview, but I'm not sure why an interview by a journalist in a reliable source cannot be used for facts that appear in the two paragraphs that introduce the interview, i.e. "McCauley was instrumental in the creation the first two Oculus Rift development kits." or "He's currently working on a new VR tracking system....")
 * David in DC (talk) 15:00, 16 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep I was unable to verify the assertions in the nomination.  I reviewed and found none of the five parts of WP:PROMO to be relevant.  According to our articles, the Bay Area News Group (BANG) is the largest newspaper organization in the 7.6 million population San Francisco Bay Area, larger than the San Francisco Chronicle.  One of the sentences from BANG; said to be "local interest", not "significant", and not an "independent reliable source" is: "Millions of people have played his creations, and by January 2008, the franchise had made about $1 billion in sales in 26 months, according to the NPD Group, a provider of consumer and retail market research.", ref  Also marked as not "independent reliable coverage" are Business Insider (New York City), and PC Gamer (UK).  The nomination has claimed that the topic is not notable without showing evidence of the quick check of WP:BEFORE D1.  Here is another in-depth reliable source, found with WP:BEFORE:
 * Unscintillating (talk) 06:08, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep, just the sources cited by David in DC and by Unscintillating above already show passing WP:GNG. Nsk92 (talk) 11:47, 20 September 2016 (UTC)


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