Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack O'Loughlin (hurler)


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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:46, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Jack O'Loughlin (hurler)

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Fails notability. First article just a listing, second is not found, searched paper web site and Donegal Sport Hub, sounds like an interview anyway (primary source, not valid for notability), third just has his name listed. Search finds no significant secondary independent indepth articles about him. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:20, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Ireland. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:20, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The subject is not notable and the article makes no support for inclusion in Wikipedia. IrishOsita (talk) 03:48, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure he's not as notable as the other O'Loughlin (John, who retired this week) but "article makes no support for inclusion" is wrong - it says he won a Nicky Rackard Cup and so he qualified for the Christy Ring Cup - so that is the highest level he could play at - so what more could he do?
 * So WP:NGAELIC's third part is effective here - he plays in the National League.
 * And this proves that. And it's about O'Loughlin too and has a big photo of him. And is on the website of a company that owns "over 20" newspapers. I know next to nothing about the hurling up there in Donegal - but then I found that straight away?
 * So obviously the nominator didn't make a proper search. What newspaper site is he searching anyway? The article used for O'Loughlin, the hurler, isn't even published on a website - so how could a search of some website prove it "fails notability"? "Second is not found" - so it has to be found now to not fail notability? Where is the rule saying it has to be on a website? WP:GNG says - Sources do not have to be available online or written in English.
 * WP:N says - Thus, before proposing or nominating an article for deletion, or offering an opinion based on notability in a deletion discussion,
 * editors are strongly encouraged to attempt to find sources for the subject in question and consider the possibility of existent sources if none can be found by a search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:BB6:A06:EC58:258F:6289:590C:4636 (talk) 15:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * So changing NSPORTS didn't change anything to people treating it as an "insta-notability pass"? Besides the sources in the article, which don't appear to meet the requirements of WP:GNG; this is an interview with O'Loughlin, which is obviously not "independent" of him. In fact, even in the interview, none of the coverage is about O'Loughlin (it rather is about the then upcoming game with another team); so this fails SIGCOV both due to not actually being about O'Loughlin; due to being routine sports coverage; and finally due to not being independent from him... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:09, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete due to the absence of WP:SIGCOV about this person. NGAELIC only indicates a subject is likely to have received significant coverage, like other criteria on NSPORTS; it "does not mean that an article must be kept."; and NGAELIC still needs to be upgraded in light of the recent changes to NSPORTS (in fact, it still has the deprecated participation-based criteria; which ought to be fixed). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 19:09, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


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