Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Skelly (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. There is a clear consensus that the General Notability Guideline is met. (non-admin closure) Jack Frost (talk) 03:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Jack Skelly
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SOLDIER. I can not find any sizable information about him, only passing mentions. Lettlerhello 00:56, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Like the nominator User:Clarityfiend in the first AfD process (who later withdrew their nom), I'm able to find a surprising amount of material, all seemingly meeting WP:IRS, all directly detailing this subject. There are two reliable sources already applied to the page, one of which (an article in Prologue, the magazine of the National Archives) is online in pdf form and lists at least two books which feature the subject's brief life prominently, The Jennie Wade Story: A True and Complete Account of the Only Civilian Killed During the Battle of Gettysburg and My Country Needs Me: the story of Johnston Hastings Skelly Jr. (a full length biography of the subject). If a researcher at NARA writing in a NARA house journal believes these two books are reliable, then I'm satisfied on IRS. I find a book by William A. Frassanito, Early Photography at Gettysburg, which spends at least three pages on the subject and describes five separate portraits of the subject in some detail. The book The Complete Gettysburg Guide: Walking and Driving Tours of the Battlefield, Town, Cemeteries, Field Hospital Sites, and Other Topics of Historical Interest by J. David Petruzzi, lists the subject's grave as tour stop #12 on the driving tour. I also found an article in Blue and Gray Magazine. I found all of this in two pages of googlebooks search. The subject is apparently a part of Gettysburg lore. He certainly doesn't meet WP:SOLDIER but easily passes GNG. BusterD (talk) 02:58, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Withdraw nomination. Oops. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:20, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Clarityfiend:What does this withdrawal mean when the AFD is not started by you? -- M h hossein   talk 12:55, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Dammit, I thought I started the second Afd too. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:47, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Jennie Wade he fails WP:SOLDIER and his only notability is his relationship to Wade and so does not justify a standalone page. Mztourist (talk) 05:24, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - There is wide coverage of the subject with ample articles and books writing about him. A post in Gettysburg is named after the subject, and that information with a ref is now in the article. A book about the subject, My Country Needs Me, includes never-before released letters from Jennie Wade to Skelly. Also, the Grand Army of the Republic post in Gettysburg was named after the subject. This easily passes WP:GNG and meetsWP:BIO. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 06:25, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep May not meet the letter of NSOLDIER but seems like there is enough to meet GNG. The current state does not reflect notability. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 14:20, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets GNG. Possible to merge with Jennie Wade as they are notable for the same thing. Vici Vidi (talk) 07:42, 6 July 2020 (UTC)


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