Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Spring (Film Director)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Deletion discussions are not a vote count, and none of the single-purpose accounts below made anything resembling a policy-based argument for the subject's notability. § FreeRangeFrog croak 06:09, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Jack Spring (Film Director)

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Does not appear to pass WP:FILMMAKER, no iMDB entry. An article may be appropriate once this person meets notability, but currently is WP:TOOSOON. &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(talk)  01:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. He's gotten a bit of notice and a short film review, which is pretty impressive for a teenager (or most other people), but not sufficient for either FILMMAKER or GNG. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:17, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Other than these 2 sources  - I can't find anything else which clearly means he's not notable yet, Good luck for the future tho. – Davey 2010  •  (talk)  12:34, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Being a film maker from the North of England myself I can assure you that this kid is pretty big already. He is certainly known across London and I know him from up here in Gateshead. I would say he definitely classes as notable. MightyMariner1 (talk) 14:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * No one's personal opinion counts as a marker of notability. Cowlibob (talk) 16:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Being a film maker from the North of England myself I can assure you that this kid is pretty big already. He is certainly known across London and I know him from up here in Gateshead. I would say he definitely classes as notable. MightyMariner1 (talk) 14:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Crossed out duplicate comment. This won't be decided by popular vote, so don't duplicate your comments. Cowlibob (talk) 16:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Just asked one of my film maker buddies in Seattle if he has heard of Jack Spring. He has certainly heard of him as being one of the London film industries best prospects. He has a good backing from the British Film Institute who have funded a host of his films. JonnyGrim (talk) 14:57, 24 June 2014 (UTC) — JonnyGrim (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Your friend from Seattle's opinion doesn't count towards notability. Can't help but note that you created your account after this Afd. Suspected closeness to subject. Cowlibob (talk) 16:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep His school Greenshaw High School note him as a famous alumni and he is plastered all over their website as a famous alumni. — Katie327 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 11:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC).
 * Katie327 could you sign your comment above so everyone knows who said what? This doesn't count towards notability. Besides this was added to the Greenshaw page by JonnyGrim and Katie327 anyway with no independent sources to support. Katie's account was also created after the start of this Afd. Suspected closeness to the subject. Cowlibob (talk) 16:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep The things Jack Spring seems to have done already - at 17! Won a wealth of awards and I would feel we would be foolish to delete such a page seeing as this guy seems near certain to be notable (if you feel he already isn't!) Sbutcher02 (talk) 15:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC) — Sbutcher02 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * We can't keep a page based on future notability. Same as JonnyGrim and Katie327 created account after this Afd. Suspected closeness to subject. Cowlibob (talk) 16:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Notability on Wikipedia, as measured by the existence of substantive coverage in reliable sources, has to already exist for a person to qualify for an article — "the things he's done already at 17" don't demonstrate notability yet if they haven't been covered in real reliable sources yet. Bearcat (talk) 17:57, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Non notable. Minimal local coverage, winning minor awards. Possible COI issue as article creator and contributors seem close to the subject. Wikipedia is not for promoting your friends. Maybe he'll become notable in the future but he's not right now. Cowlibob (talk) 16:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete; probable conflict of interest article about a person with no properly referenced evidence of notability as of today. I can loosely agree with some of his friends above that he probably will eventually become notable enough for a Wikipedia article if he keeps it up — but the time for that article is when he's actually accomplished something that gets him past WP:CREATIVE, not right now. Bearcat (talk) 17:57, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:07, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:08, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete Your school calling you a "notable alumni" does not make you notable. Someone from your general area hearing of you does not make you notable. The "he is a good prospect" line to me yells "this is too soon". We do not make articles on people who might make it good in the future.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:09, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.