Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Watts (Australian footballer)


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The result was keep. John254 01:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Jack Watts (Australian footballer)

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Despite claims to the contrary simply being picked in the draft does not make this person notable and therefore he appears to fail WP:Athlete as he has not competed at the fully professional level of this sport, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport. Once he has played at the fully professional level of this sport he can be recreated but until then this is just a crystal ball AFL stub. -- VS talk 22:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. A Google news search returns hundreds of results, and he is notable for being the No. 1 draft pick. There are US college athlete articles, for players at amateur level, and this would serve as a double standard. Harro5 23:48, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.   —Grahame (talk) 00:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep- This person does not meet WP:ATHLETE (both the previous version and the current decrappified version of the guideline), but that doesn't matter in this case. If an athlete passes the stronger and more general WP:BIO through extensive coverage in reliable secondary sources, then this trumps specific cases of it like WP:ATHLETE. Jack Watts has plenty of the necessary coverage. Reyk  YO!  01:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - #1 AFL Draft pick is notable before he plays a game at the AFL level, due to extensive news (i.e. WP:RS) interest in the draft. Some of the other nominated Draft picks might be deletable but the #1 pick is not. Peter Ballard (talk) 02:18, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - article is adequately sourced to meet the guidelines of WP:BIO, regardless of his current inability to pass the WP:ATHLETE sub-guideline. Mlaffs (talk) 04:23, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 22:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


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