Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Wiler


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 15:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Jack Wiler

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Delete - lack of independent reliable sources that offer significant coverage of this person. Fails WP:GNG and probably WP:MEMORIAL. Sourcing is to blogs, attendance lists at various poetry events and a couple of local obituaries similar to those anyone might receive in his home community. PROD removed by primary author, who asserts notability based on Wiler's editorship of Long Shot magazine, which appears to be a regional poetry journal (and defunct), and his authorship of two books, neither of which appear to establish notability under WP:AUTHOR. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 18:06, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  — Jujutacular  T · C 21:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Do Not Delete - deletion seems unwise since the Jack Wiler authored book was listed in http://poetry.about.com/od/poetrybooks/tp/bestbooks2006.htm other authors cited there have somehow survived deletion at en.wikipedia.org with far fewer sources cited, perhaps the Wiler article has too many citations causing some to be confused? - for example see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patricia_Spears_Jones

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Sheehan

Opusiv (talk) 03:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * About.com doesn't appear to meet the criteria for reliable sources and even if it did, merely being on a list housed there doesn't fulfill the requirements of WP:AUTHOR. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 04:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * About.com may not or may meet the criteria for reliable sources depending on the author of the article - the one cited was by Bob Holman,  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Opusiv (talk • contribs) 15:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Regardless, a one paragraph review of a book doesn't constitute significant coverage of the author. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 17:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete He is a published poet, but that's not enough to qualify as notable for Wikipedia purposes. (BTW I note that he never gave up his day job). No significant coverage, no significant awards or prizes, no reviews by Reliable Sources, nothing about him at Google Books. Sorry. --MelanieN (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * fwiw, neither did Wallace Stevens give up his day job.   DGG ( talk ) 03:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * fwiw, Wallace Stevens was described by numerous critics and fellow poets as a great poet and a great influence on other poets. When the same is true about Jack Wiler, I will !vote "keep". --MelanieN (talk) 04:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.