Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jackie Beere (2nd nomination)


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The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 11:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Jackie Beere
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No decent evidence of notability Rathfelder (talk) 23:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom, and if we had an article for every headteacher in the world, then Wikipedia would have way more articles about non-notable people! Minecrafter0271 (talk) 23:42, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Delete a non-notable educator.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:06, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, I think, like last time around, her OBE shows notablity in her field.Jahaza (talk) 21:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you show me one decent citation about her that's from a reliable source? --Minecrafter0271 (talk) 04:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Would love a bit more feedback. Anyone able to find any sources that help establish GNG? Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith.
 * Weak keep. Our article is somewhat promotional and should, if kept, be cut back. And I'm not at all convinced that OBEs and headmasters are automatically notable. But I found four reviews of her books, making a borderline case for WP:AUTHOR. The most colorful of the four is in The Guardian, which describes her Perfect Lesson as "A cynical, stupid, and deeply misguided bag of tips that is destined to make you a worse teacher." But bad reviews are still reviews. I can't read  but it looks reliable enough. The other two are  and . —David Eppstein (talk) 07:06, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I think a CBE or upwards makes you notable, but not an OBE on its own. Head teachers need to have attracted public attention. Happy to withdraw if someone can introduce some external sources. Rathfelder (talk) 08:16, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:AUTHOR based on the reviews above. TJMSmith (talk) 13:11, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. No real accomplishments, this is basically a run of the mill educator. The certifications are fringe at best. Bad writing can be notable, but in a marginal case like this, it's a BLP violation. Bearian (talk) 20:06, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The discussion seems to be inching towards a consensus to delete but we aren't there yet. Giving this another week in the hope for some clarity.
 * Delete. Not trying to be mean, but I don't see a single line in this that contributes to GNG! -- Dorama285 18:58, 05 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 01:18, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - She has an OBE, and this clearly passes WP:ANYBIO. Ross-c (talk) 08:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:BIO "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times." An OBE is very obviously a well-known and significant honor, moreso I daresay than many acting awards or minor academic awards. Also passes WP:GNG, regardless of whether the reviews and coverage is positive or not. Uwe Boll's critically panned films are still notable, if not highly recommended.IphisOfCrete (talk) 17:45, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * OBE on it sown is not significant. CBE certainly. MBE maybe.Rathfelder (talk) 18:05, 12 February 2020 (UTC)


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