Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob "Jacquelyn" Ryan


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The result was delete. North America1000 02:09, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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WP:BLP of a politician notable for holding office at the school board level, which is not an office that satisfies WP:NPOL. Further notability is claimed as the first openly transgender officeholder in Massachusetts, but several problems disembowel that: firstly, there's Althea Garrison, who held a seat in the state legislature in the 1990s. Secondly, there's the problem that even the press releases on Ryan's own website only shift from Jacob to Jacquelyn/Jackie, and male to female pronouns, after she was already serving on the school board, so there's no basis on which to split notability hairs over the distinction between "first one to come out while in office" and "first one to win election while already out". And thirdly, "first member of a minority community to hold an otherwise non-notable office" is not necessarily a credible claim of encyclopedic notability in and of itself, per WP:POLOUTCOMES: if she were getting nationalized coverage for this distinction, then it would count for something — but if extralocal attention is so nonexistent that you have to park the article entirely on primary sources and local community weekly newspapers that aren't widely distributed enough to contribute WP:GNG, then the distinction doesn't get her over the bar. So this is a delete, I'm sorry to say. Bearcat (talk) 00:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. NeemNarduni2 (talk) 07:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. NeemNarduni2 (talk) 07:38, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. Per WP:POLITICIAN, I can't even find much local press coverage. Best of luck to this youngster, and if election to a state-level office happens down the road, an article can be re-added. NeemNarduni2 (talk) 09:45, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: I find Bearcat's argument entirely persuasive; there's nothing inherently notable in Wikipedia guidelines about being the first member of a minority community to be a minor officeholder, absent a GNG pass. How far do we slice this, after all?  First Pequot officeholder?  First Romany officeholder?  First Croatian officeholder?  Beyond that, the SPA creating the article misrepresented the source (the claim coming from only one of the sources listed, and that being a small town weekly of the sort generally not held to be a reliable source), and I've corrected the claim to suit: that the subject is the first openly transgendered school committee member in the Commonwealth.   Ravenswing   09:57, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete – No evidence that the subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. Hirolovesswords (talk) 13:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Elected to minor office in a small town, coverage that I can find is merely local. Possibly  WP:TOOSOON. E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. NN local politician. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:14, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


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