Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob Hornberger (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. There is consensus that not only does the individual not pass NPOL, but that it's likely they also fail GNG. Nosebagbear (talk) 01:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Jacob Hornberger
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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. This article was deleted in 2019 before being re-created sometime in 2020. As far I can tell, the same rationale that led to deletion the first time still applies to the current version: the sources are predominately primary and non-WP:RS-compliant, and those that are RS-compliant are either routine run-of-the-mill campaign coverage or lacking significant coverage of Hornberger. My WP:BEFORE search failed to produce any reliably-sourced coverage that would be sufficient for passing the notability bar.

A suggested alternative to deletion would be redirecting to 2002 United States Senate election in Virginia where he was a ballot-qualified candidate in the the general election and received a significant (for a non-major party candidate) percentage of the vote. Sal2100 (talk) 20:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Delete or draftify? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  01:33, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics, Politicians, Libertarianism, Law, Texas,  and Virginia. Sal2100 (talk) 20:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Draftify per WP:TOOSOON. References are mostly primary, but he could gain notability in the 2024 election, and should be draftified so the creator can continue to work on it. QuicoleJR (talk) 23:11, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Draftify. Provided he wins the 2024 Libertarian nomination, he would likely become notable, and thus a page would be warranted. At the moment, it is just WP:TOOSOON. JML1148 (Talk &#124; Contribs) 05:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I think coming 2nd place at the 2020 nomination ought be enough. Jack4576 (talk) 14:37, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete None of the issues in the 2019 deletion have been fixed. Article shouldn't have been recreated until those problems where fixed. If he wins the nomination he might get enough notable sources for an article, but that won't be for another year (the draft would expire before the primary is concluded). Until then, delete the article. Scu ba (talk) 21:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Since the 2019 deletion the candidate came 2nd place at the 2020 Libertarian conference. Jack4576 (talk) 14:36, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete There is no significant coverage of him. He is mentioned either political newsletters, or in articles where he is not the primary subject. 128.6.36.94 (talk) 21:05, 7 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep: The multiple articles from Reason establish SIGCOV, generating a presumption that this subject is notable. Those articles are independent and reliable. They also include a profile and are not a passing reference.
 * Plus various other reasons for notability. (respectable past electoral performance, minor party candidate in a prominent state election) Jack4576 (talk) 14:19, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Achieving a result of 2nd place at the Libertarian party national convention for the party's presidential nomination I think also strongly establishes notability. Jack4576 (talk) 14:35, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * coming 2nd place is not a criterion for notability. WP:NPOL is the relevant guideline here. LibStar (talk) 01:12, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Ditto what Libstar said. Also, see footnote #4 in WP:GNG: "...a series of publications by the same author or in the same periodical is normally counted as one source." i.e. coverage in multiple articles from the same publication does not constitute SIGCOV. There needs to be non-trivial coverage in multiple WP:RS-compliant publications/media outlets, and such has not been found for Hornberger. Sal2100 (talk) 15:11, 12 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete almost all the sources I found were from the Future of Freedom Foundation. Nothing to suggest WP:NPOL is met here. LibStar (talk) 01:16, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. All of the cited sources were some kind of promotional, primary source, trivial mentions or unreliable. Does not seem to have enough coverage to justify a standalone article. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 05:30, 13 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.