Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob Pullen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. I am closing this per WP:BOLD as User:Glenfarclas has ran to Delete the page. The deletion policy has NOT been followed, see here on alternatives to deletion. The Talk page is also blank contrary to this suggestion. (non-admin closure)  D u s t i SPEAK!! 16:42, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Jacob Pullen

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Non-notable college basketball player who, of course, does not meet WP:ATHLETE. News hits and other coverage is what you'd expect in game summaries and the like, so he does not meet WP:GNG either. My PROD was contested by an IP with the comment, "future pro relevant article." Well, WP:NOT.  Glenfarclas  ( talk ) 08:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - He seems to be a very important part of his team, all of the game summaries I've found seem to talk about him as though he were a one-man point scoring machine, but unfortunately that's not enough to assert notability. Definitely fails WP:ATHLETE PanydThe muffin is not subtle 13:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions.  --  -  EdoDodo  talk 16:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Weakish keep WP:ATHLETE does a poor job accounting for American college basketball and football players, some of whom are better known than many pro players. Pullen is averaging over twenty points a game for a major program, and he does meet WP:N, as long as you count local sources (eg,, , , etc). That said, he doesn't seem to be highly regarded as an NBA draft prospect; ESPN ranks him at #141. Zagalejo^^^ 20:55, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:47, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - I added an infobox on the page, added a reference and cleaned it up a bit. Give me some time, and I'll contine to improve the article.Topgun530 (talk) 20:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete - Fails |Reliable sources in that the only sources the article currently has comes from a sites which has Bio's of all players even non-notable players. --Sin Harvest (talk) 01:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep I added two more citations/references to improve value of article. Topgun530 (talk) 02:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Well, the sources in the article now are (1) his bio on the Kansas State Sports website, which every player on the team gets, (2) a stat sheet from ESPN, which every player also gets, and (3) a stat sheet from a basketball recruiting website, which, again, every player gets.  These sources show that some of the stats discussed in the article are true, but unfortunately they don't show that he is a notable player.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 05:42, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Easy -- and frustrated -- keep. Why is it that no one just fixes the problems in an article? Is it easier to simply AFD an article than it is to run a quick search for some sources, that would have immediately found a plethora available for use? This is really close to a speedy keep, as it's not even close to deletable. Unit  Anode  15:28, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, it never occurred to me he might be mentioned in wrapups of college basketball games! Seriously, cool off, don't assume I'm such an idiot, and explain how your WP:LOTSOFSOURCES justify your exasperation.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 22:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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