Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacques Marnier Companie


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. JForget 01:08, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Jacques Marnier Companie

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Contested prod; rationale was "Unreferenced hoax article. Unable to find any reliable sources; all off-wiki mentions trace back to this article". I've been unable to find any reliable sources that mention this person in Factiva, JSTOR, Oxford Music Online or RILM. Suggest this article should be deleted as either a hoax or an individual who does not meet notability guidelines. --Muchness (talk) 11:39, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: as the editor who deprodded, I should note that this was procedural. Since the article has existed since 2006 I thought it deserved a discussion to confirm whether it is a hoax or otherwise. Cheers &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:47, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as article fails all criteria for composers. Armbrust  Talk  Contribs  11:57, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. He gets only one google books hit which confirms he existed and died in 1785: . This is going to be a difficult case to prove a hoax. The major contributors to this article all have different IP addresses/accounts. The edit history really doesn't suggest hoax or sock puppetry to me (maybe just a bit of vandalism?). I therefore suspect that Companie is indeed what the article currently claims him to be. The lack of online material available is really more a reflection of his obscurity rather than an indicator of his lack of notability. What we should really be looking for is some sort of publications by or about Fritz Kreisler's findings (which hopefully exists). However, if we can't find any sources in print that establish notability then this article will need to be deleted.4meter4 (talk) 12:11, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That GBbooks hit prove nothing as that company publishing compilations of Wikipedia aerticles. Edward321 (talk) 04:39, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment The list of contributions by the article's main editors is peculiar: Szigeti (creator); Violinist01, 96.233.67.26, 140.247.154.175 – smelly. As for the book cited above (1785 Deaths, ISBN 9781155923116): try to find that ISBN at WorldCat. Also: look up "Dag Henrik Esrum-Hellerup" and "Guglielmo Baldini". -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:21, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Fails WP:V. MSGJ, the book that you cited in the article (and that 4meter4 linked to above) is a scrape of Wikipedia articles (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Unreferenced articles), and after typing this comment, I'll be off to remove it. I can find no reliable sources that establish this person's existence. Deor (talk) 12:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course quick delete either as hoax or non-notable. Why even waste time discussing it?--Smerus (talk) 13:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Smerus and everyone else. I suspect the fact that he was "rediscovered" by Kreisler is the give-away.  Kreisler rediscovered a lot of composers so that he could pass his own work off as theirs.  --Deskford (talk) 22:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete - Books LLC is a Wikipedia scrape so that verifies nothing. -- Whpq (talk) 17:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as hoax. Books LLC is no more reliable than any other mirror of Wikipedia. Edward321 (talk) 04:39, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: I agree. I do not like hoaxes. JJ98 (talk) 07:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.