Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacques Perfettini


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. If you have an issue with the closing of this discussion, please take it to Deletion review. I am happy to userfy an article, just ask. Thanks for assuming good faith. SarahStierch (talk) 03:27, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Jacques Perfettini

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Foreign Language. Tritario (talk) 14:59, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. It says that he was awarded with the Legion of Honour, the highest military honor in France.  If that's true, then he's notable.  However, I don't know where to look to validate this.  I don't see any evidence on Google, and the official web site does not have a list of all recipients.  Maybe a Frenchman can help.  In the absence of any evidence validating that this man has been awarded the honor, the article should probably be deleted. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 17:01, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment The page isn't in English - and the French Wikipedia doesn't seem to have a page by that name. They were added to the list of Legion of Honour recipients just over five years ago by someone who wasn't logged in.  The CFNPA appears to be the Centre de Formation du Personnel Navigant en Amérique - in other words a training batallion.  (Babelfish also claims he was a French general).  I'm leaning towards delete as a hoax that we haven't got rid of?  Of course if anyone trumps my research, that's fine. Neonchameleon (talk) 18:04, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment found a source http://www.servicehistorique.sga.defense.gouv.fr/contenu/functions/dc/attached/FRSHD_PUB_00000261_dc/FRSHD_PUB_00000261_dc_att-FRSHD_PUB_00000261.pdf (French govt site) which on p 117 of a long pdf lists him as "824- Général Jacques PERFETTINI 1951-1954 : chef d’escadrille, puis commandant du GC II/6 « Normandie-Niemen ». Page 112 is the beginning of that list, of people interviewed for an oral history of the "armee de l'air" (air force?). So he doesn't look to be a hoax. Might be someone's non-notable grandfather, unless the Legion d'honneur is verifiable.   Pam  D  22:53, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It was the Legion d'Honneur added out of nowhere by a not logged in user years ato I was suspecting was a hoax. We need sources on that.  For now it's not wp:verifiable and without it he isn't notable. Neonchameleon (talk) 23:15, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment. Being in a foreign language is not in itself a deletion criterion. I came to this article via WP:Pages needing translation into English; for future note, non-English articles should be tagged with the not English template and reported there, as this one was, unless they replicate a topic we already have an article on, or also exist on a foreign-language Wikipedia, both of which are speedy deletion criteria. I haven't yet looked for sources, but I've translated the text, reaching the same conclusion about the CFNPA as Neonchameleon. Yngvadottir (talk) 13:36, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Well, it's been two days, and nobody has found evidence of his notability.  Seeing as how it's a bit unlikely that there would be no coverage of such a great honor, I'm going to agree that the award is a possible hoax.  If someone does find citations, then he's clearly notable, and the article can be recreated. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:02, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.