Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacques Saadé


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Keep, the nominator's rationale for deletion is invalid. This leaves the question of notability and the consensus is that Saadé is notable. (non-admin close) RMHED (talk) 18:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Jacques Saadé

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one sentence article Eli  +  05:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep- seems notable (see 1 2 3), just needs expansion and sourcing. --/M endaliv /2¢/Δ's/ 05:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Even that one sentence said "CEO of CMA CGM, the third largest container shipping company in the world, " "One sentence article" is not a reason for deletion! DGG (talk) 06:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. But sadly, lack of notability is. The subject is not notable outside the scope of the company it represents. Furthermore, the sole source of the whole article (may it be a line or bible-sized) is self-published. Therefore, due to the lack of reliable sources, the article clearly violates the verifiability policy. Adding a personal opinion, I'm surprised this article wasn't deleted via an A7 speedy deletion.--Legion fi (talk) 06:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Saadé is a notable businessman. Masterpiece2000   ( talk ) 08:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. And as such he is noted in the CMA CGM article. There is no need for an independet article about him, as he is not notable outside his company (which is the notable object, not the CEO himself). --Legion fi (talk) 08:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * consistent practice here has been the the ceos of notable companies are notable. If the company is important they affect more than the company, but the industry. DGG (talk) 21:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions.   --  brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 15:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.   --  brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 15:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect to CMA CGM per Legion fi. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 16:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Legion fi. --Jessika Folkerts (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment new references were added, the "article" is more credible -- Eli +  18:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC).
 * Comment What is the encyclopedic interest of this article? Sounds like self-promotion.--Jessika Folkerts (talk)
 * Keep. Loads of sources found by Google News and some by Google Books that show notability. If anything I would say that Jacques Saadé is more notable than the company. He is the founder of the company, so it was created as a vehicle for his business activities, rather than Saadé being appointed to run the company. For confirmation of this just look at the headline of the Financial Times article cited in our article: it says "Shipping magnate makes waves in the Mediterranean", not "Shipping company makes waves in the Mediterranean". Phil Bridger (talk) 14:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.