Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jade Marcela (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  20:42, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Jade Marcela
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Fails GNG and PORNBIO and the claim to fame (Indonesia's first porn star) is so risible that I'm not even going to comment on that. The only source is clearly a publicity stunt for an politico and contains no decent biographical detail about her. Spartaz Humbug! 08:00, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete. No verifiable claim for WP:PORNBIO as noted in the previous AfD. Falls short on WP:GNG. RS coverage lacks depth. The most significant coverage I found in searching was an XBIZ article that looks like a repackaged press release. • Gene93k (talk) 18:30, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as fails PORNBIO & GNG. – Davey 2010 Talk 21:42, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:PORNBIO, WP:BIO, and WP:GNG. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 01:40, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:PORNBIO. -- fdewaele, 21 July 2015, 13:27 CET
 * Comment Anybody read indonesian? Seems to be several google news hits across different dates on jade marcela but can't judge the sources' reliabilities. If delete, then do it without prejudice to a later recreation with the appropriate sources. Morbidthoughts (talk) 02:42, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I can read Indonesian, those are Indonesian medias, the first and the last two (sidomi and kapan lagi) are Indonesian entertainment news web media, which often feature tabloid journalism, the merdeka.com is the parent media group of kapan lagi and is actually a merdeka newspaper's web version. Those are Indonesian media alright, the news is quite reliable.  Gunkarta  talk 05:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep I have rewrite and add references for the article. I understand she might not be a notable pornstar according to WP:PORNBIO criteria. Nevertheless she is quite notable here in Indonesia, as the first Indonesian woman that pursue a career in professional pornographic industry in USA. For this she has stirred a controversy in Indonesia.  Gunkarta  talk 05:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * So two sources are Tabloid and would therefore be ruled out as non-RS and one is a proper source? Are you able to find any additional quality sources and what bioghraphical detail about the subject does the RS have? Does BLP1E come into play with this? Spartaz Humbug! 14:53, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Does meet WP:PORNBIO unless Indonesian media does not count? Suastiastu (talk) 13:53, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. There are, inter alia, no reliable sources for any claims regarding the subject's ethnicity, and no sources at all for the claim of being the first Indonesia porn performer in the US market. To the extent the Indonesian sources are reliable, they include no substantive content supporting notability. Being mentioned by a publicity-seeking political figure isn't enough. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 00:26, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


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