Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jafar ibn Ali


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The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:51, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Jafar ibn Ali

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The sons, followers etc of Ali who died at Karbala (see List of casualties in Hussain's army at the Battle of Karbala), without having done anything independently, are a textbook example of WP:ONEEVENT. For some, including Husayn's six-month baby, there is considerable coverage as they became important figures in the Alid tradition, but most are simply generic "martyrs" of the type "XY followed Husayn and was killed at Karbala by WZ". Constantine  ✍  10:56, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete A casualties list amounts to a historic WP:MEMORIAL marker. Probably best to list them, if at all, in the Battle article. Rarely do we list such things, however I am not familiar enough with Islamic traditions to know how significant keeping a list of martyrs is for encyclopedic purposes. It might come down to cultural differences of what an encyclopedia is for. Maybe this is a case where the Arabic or Farsi Wikipedia has these articles but the English does not. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 22:38, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, v/r - TP 03:32, 14 November 2013 (UTC)


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