Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaffar tribe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Courcelles 23:47, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Jaffar tribe

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created as a requested article, and approval for the article was denied as OR. Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Jaffar_tribe --  Gaijin42 (talk) 17:05, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:02, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:02, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete on procedural grounds. Creating the article after it was denied, just it can go to AFD is not the proper way to deal with the denial.  Dennis Brown (talk) 18:21, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete whatever the kerfuffle about procedure, the article is unsalvageable OR, a dreadful ESSAY of permanently unverifiable claims written in unencyclopedic language. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:41, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. We can deal with the language and format through copyediting. What renders the article unsalvageable is the OR; once it's removed, we're not left with anything to work with. Sources about this group might change that, but no sources are apparent - and it might be better to start fresh anyway, if and when. The AFC decline doesn't factor, though it seems that posting a new article identical to one declined through AFC would be similar to posting a deleted article after it was deleted via AFD; perhaps we need to expand WP:CSD a bit. But that's a debate for elsewhere. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 15:17, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
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