Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jagan Timilsina


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  06:52, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Jagan Timilsina

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Fails WP:GNG; WP:NATH the main event proposed for notability here is not a recognised event as per guidelines. Mail and Guardian coverage are incidental mentions as the journalists' tour guide. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nepal-related deletion discussions. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete, although regrettably so. Interesting character, but does not meet WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 03:44, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, some major issues have been fixed and some strong evidences have been added. Jagan is a very prominent character among Nepalese trail runners, mountaineers and outdoor instructors, and I sincerely hope his account gets approved. Sajankc (talk) 14:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:56, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep He definitely passes WP:GNG.BiggySmoov (talk) 05:57, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * How? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:14, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Although relisted twice, I see no reason why the character wouldn't pass WP:GNG. I mean, he has quite a good notability and is featured in major news sources in Nepal. The Kathmandu Post and The Himalayan Times are alone enough as they're two of the largest newspapers in Nepal. Also, his mention in The Guardian is way more than just a mention. I hope someone who really understands WP:GNG goes through the article and references again and takes a final decision. Sajankc (talk) 14:01, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Struck duplicate 'keep' !vote. Daniel (talk) 03:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. The subject doesn't pass WP:GNG. The feature length texts are interviews or repackaged interviews and don't feel sufficiently independent from the subject. They are in between a human-interest narrative and a promotional success story, that seem to appear at the time of the subject's increased involvement with various projects. The Guardian article presents the subject as part of a tapestry of local people, all effectively serving as a backdrop to the main theme of "authentic trekking". Only very small portions from this coverage could be used in an article, which is already reflected in the article's current form which doesn't look very legitimate, and I don't know how one would even go about improving it. — Alalch Emis (talk) 11:40, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I beg to differ. 1. Interview type articles aren't really forbidden by Wikipedia. 2. If you read properly those articles aren't totally primary sources. Sources are reliable and nationally revered, independently written. 3. There are enough other references to prove the subject is a notable trail runner, mountaineer and outdoor instructor. 4. A quick Google search is also going to give anyone enough idea about the notability of the subject. Sajankc (talk) 13:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Sajankc (talk) 05:14, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Alalch Emis. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 03:17, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment "All biographies of living people (BLP) must have at least one source that supports a statement about the subject, or else it can be proposed for deletion." -Wikipedia on Proposed deletion of biographies of living people. At least one, there are at least four fully secondary and reliable.


 * Could you please constrain your comments to a either a entry or in direct respond to others comments. Seddon talk 19:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seddon talk 19:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Has significant indepth coverage. Keep ~ Yeti Dai (talk) 15:18, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is funny that how WP:GNG is quoted by both keeper and delete voters. Anyway, according to the references, he won some major athletic competition which is covered in english, french and nepali newspapers, so there is a WP:SIGCOV. Though there is no single "wholesome" article about him, but the cumulative mentions in various articles points to his contribution and general notability. nirmal (talk) 05:13, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I feel what you're saying, but arriving to in-depth coverage in a "cumulative" manner means that we would be originally synthesizing notability, which is why your idea is not compatible with the general conception of notability. — Alalch Emis (talk) 18:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


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